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why is weed illigal???
« on: August 03, 2008, 08:29:11 PM »
i want a real answer and i dont want they cant tax it cause thats a pile of BS. but i just havent been able to figure it out, why is it soooooo bad???? cause its really not compared to alcohol and salvia (legal plant that makes you retarded basically)

but i was wonderin if any 1 knew a real reason why its illigal?
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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2008, 08:47:20 PM »
Just to piss you off.
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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2008, 08:49:47 PM »
Liberals don't want it legalized because then people who rely on it for sustenance would be SOL, Conservatives don't want it legalized for much the same reasons they call stupid when applied to gun control.

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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2008, 08:51:22 PM »
1 of the reasons it was originally made illegal was back then there were alot of Mexicans in California that were first there because there was a big labor shortage, but after the shortage was over the Mexicans still stayed, they wanted a way to get rid of them and they knew that alot of them smoked marijuana, so they made it illegal, this is one of the reasons for making it illegal.
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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2008, 09:02:35 PM »
1 of the reasons it was originally made illegal was back then there were alot of Mexicans in California that were first there because there was a big labor shortage, but after the shortage was over the Mexicans still stayed, they wanted a way to get rid of them and they knew that alot of them smoked marijuana, so they made it illegal, this is one of the reasons for making it illegal.
William Randolph Hearst (Citizen Kane) and the Hearst Paper Manufacturing Division of Kimberly Clark owned vast acreage of timberlands. The Hearst Company supplied most paper products. Patty Hearst's grandfather, a destroyer of nature for his own personal profit, stood to lose billions because of hemp.

In 1937, Dupont patented the processes to make plastics from oil and coal. Dupont's Annual Report urged stockholders to invest in its new petrochemical division. Synthetics such as plastics, cellophane, celluloid, methanol, nylon, rayon, Dacron, etc., could now be made from oil. Natural hemp industrialization would have ruined over 80% of Dupont's business.




THE CONSPIRACY
Andrew Mellon became Hoover's Secretary of the Treasury and Dupont's primary investor. He appointed his future nephew-in-law, Harry J. Anslinger, to head the Federal Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs.


Secret meetings were held by these financial tycoons. Hemp was declared dangerous and a threat to their billion dollar enterprises. For their dynasties to remain intact, hemp had to go. These men took an obscure Mexican slang word: 'marihuana' and pushed it into the consciousness of America.




MEDIA MANIPULATION
A media blitz of 'yellow journalism' raged in the late 1920s and 1930s. Hearst's newspapers ran stories emphasizing the horrors of marihuana. The menace of marihuana made headlines. Readers learned that it was responsible for everything from car accidents to loose morality.


Films like 'Reefer Madness' (1936), 'Marihuana: Assassin of Youth' (1935) and 'Marihuana: The Devil's Weed' (1936) were propaganda designed by these industrialists to create an enemy. Their purpose was to gain public support so that anti-marihuana laws could be passed.


Examine the following quotes from 'The Burning Question' aka REEFER MADNESS:



a violent narcotic.
acts of shocking violence.
incurable insanity.
soul-destroying effects.
under the influence of the drug he killed his entire family with an ax.
more vicious, more deadly even than these soul-destroying drugs (heroin, cocaine) is the menace of marihuana!

Reefer Madness did not end with the usual 'the end.' The film concluded with these words plastered on the screen: TELL YOUR CHILDREN.


In the 1930s, people were very naive; even to the point of ignorance. The masses were like sheep waiting to be led by the few in power. They did not challenge authority. If the news was in print or on the radio, they believed it had to be true. They told their children and their children grew up to be the parents of the baby-boomers.


On April 14, 1937, the Prohibitive Marihuana Tax Law or the bill that outlawed hemp was directly brought to the House Ways and Means Committee. This committee is the only one that can introduce a bill to the House floor without it being debated by other committees. The Chairman of the Ways and Means, Robert Doughton, was a Dupont supporter. He insured that the bill would pass Congress.


Dr. James Woodward, a physician and attorney, testified too late on behalf of the American Medical Association. He told the committee that the reason the AMA had not denounced the Marihuana Tax Law sooner was that the Association had just discovered that marihuana was hemp.


Few people, at the time, realized that the deadly menace they had been reading about on Hearst's front pages was in fact passive hemp. The AMA understood cannabis to be a MEDICINE found in numerous healing products sold over the last hundred years.


In September of 1937, hemp became illegal. The most useful crop known became a drug and our planet has been suffering ever since.


Congress banned hemp because it was said to be the most violence-causing drug known. Anslinger, head of the Drug Commission for 31 years, promoted the idea that marihuana made users act extremely violent. In the 1950s, under the Communist threat of McCarthyism, Anslinger now said the exact opposite. Marijuana will pacify you so much that soldiers would not want to fight.



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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2008, 09:06:29 PM »
i want a real answer and i dont want they cant tax it cause thats a pile of BS. but i just havent been able to figure it out, why is it soooooo bad???? cause its really not compared to alcohol and salvia (legal plant that makes you retarded basically)

but i was wonderin if any 1 knew a real reason why its illigal?

Because potheads spell illegal as "illigal".
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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2008, 09:08:50 PM »
It's illegal now because the dealers that sell it contribute big $$$ to Congress to keep it that way and protect their livlihood.

You can sit and whine about it OR you can start deluging your Representatives in support of HR 5843. I'm betting most of the stoners will sit on the couch, eat twinkies and continue to whine, so it will remain illegal.

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Representative Barney Frank, D-Mass has sponsored a new bill that would eliminate the Federal penalty for Marijuana possession for personal use. The Bill is also being co-sponsored by Rep. Ron Paul R-TX. It appears the primary reasoning for introducing this bill is because millions of Americans use Marijuana, and since 1960 there have been 20 million arrests for marijuana use and possession. In a day and age when our prisons are so full that the doors swing open for violent criminals, then the courts and penal systems are spending far too many tax payers dollars to prosecute a lot of people who beyond enjoying a little social herb, have not harmed anyone.

The Marijuana Reform Bill HR 5843 will not remove penalties for growing, importing or exporting, or selling for profit the marijuana, but it will remove the penalties for its responsible use. Rep Ron Paul said, "We do not arrest and jail responsible alcohol drinkers". We should not infringe upon the rights of individuals to use Marijuana responsibly as long as they are abiding by the constitutional premise of freedom as long as it does not infringe upon the rights and freedoms of others and the user is not harming others or their property.


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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2008, 09:09:17 PM »
cause ppl do dumb stuff when they r on weed.....and people use in wrong way..... sure, let ppl wit cancer take it... but thats it..


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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2008, 09:15:45 PM »
Tobacco lobbied for it. It was far easier to control the legal flow of tobacco than marijuana.
The only reason it's not as well linked as Tobacco to cancer is because people generally smoke less of it.
It's every bit as dangerous an intoxicant as alcohol, but it's log term effects are not so damaging. A pothead will eventually regain the use of his brain once he stays off the weed for a few months. An alcoholic is likely to have severe medical repercussions for the rest of his or her life.
The drug industry is also the backbone of organised crime. IF drugs were to be made legal and available, crooked cops, judges and politicians would lose a huge amount of graft money due to sudden disappearance of most organised crime. They cannot legalise marijuana because that would take away their reasoning for prohibition on the other substances too. The truth of the subject is that while the actual number of addicts will not change, (If you're going to make that lifestyle choice the issue of legality is not going to stop you! ;) ) the number of drug related crimes would plummet. Prisons would not be anywhere near as crowded and rehab programs will gain a greater popularity without the added stigma of "illegal" hanging over drug use and Police forces will have a huge drain on their resources lifted.
In a nutshell, although there will be a huge boost in tax related income for the government the enormous cut in related bureaucratic infrastructure will be too much for them to bear. Governments like MORE control over the population, not less.
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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2008, 09:18:56 PM »
cause ppl do dumb stuff when they r on weed.....and people use in wrong way..... sure, let ppl wit cancer take it... but thats it..


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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2008, 09:30:40 PM »
Because potheads spell illegal as "illigal".

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I don't know why heck I'm mean if you want to smoke that crap your already stupid and so no harm done smoking it.

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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2008, 09:54:10 PM »
Well it's because the.......Dude....wait...what was the question again?%#$%# (inhales deeply)

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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2008, 09:54:47 PM »
Because it stays in the bloodstream too long.

If you smoked it on Saturday night, on Monday we couldn't tell if you were stoned or just stupid.  :D

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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2008, 10:05:24 PM »
how can you be stupid for smoking weed????? i mean its a plant, it grows on the ground by a seed. making weed legal would open up millions of jobs for people. getting drunk is FAR worse then getting high off weed. if they just made a 4 pack of blunts for $5 the government would make a fortune!!!!! plus yeah some people would grow it. but hey i can grow an apple tree and eat apples all i want without going to the store. but people are lazy!!! they want to get it already made, so i think the government is kidding themselves.

i just dont understand how they can put some 1 in jail and make them spend there life savings over a plant. why not just make them pay a $200 fine and for a dealer that would maybe boost it to $500??? yeah people would still smoke it. but that 200 dollars would suck if you got caught. if they made weed legal i think it would actually decrease crime. HOW? because it would make people more happy and laid back. i bet you if George bush and whoever owns those oil companies smoked a blunt with eachother those prices would go down!!! lol
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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2008, 10:07:13 PM »
how can you be stupid for smoking weed????? i mean its a plant, it grows on the ground by a seed. making weed legal would open up millions of jobs for people. getting drunk is FAR worse then getting high off weed. if they just made a 4 pack of blunts for $5 the government would make a fortune!!!!! plus yeah some people would grow it. but hey i can grow an apple tree and eat apples all i want without going to the store. but people are lazy!!! they want to get it already made, so i think the government is kidding themselves.

i just dont understand how they can put some 1 in jail and make them spend there life savings over a plant. why not just make them pay a $200 fine and for a dealer that would maybe boost it to $500??? yeah people would still smoke it. but that 200 dollars would suck if you got caught. if they made weed legal i think it would actually decrease crime. HOW? because it would make people more happy and laid back. i bet you if George bush and whoever owns those oil companies smoked a blunt with eachother those prices would go down!!! lol

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