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Offline Mojava

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P47-N Climb
« on: August 05, 2008, 11:51:03 AM »
 Does anyone have any data on the climb rate of the p47-N?  I've found a few things about the M model, and it's rate of climb was very much superior to the p47-N.  Here is the data I have dug up, P-47 N Climb, it seems to be a bit better than what we have modeled now.  I may just be looking at the wrong stats, any help would be appreciated.

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Re: P47-N Climb
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2008, 12:15:07 PM »
P-47N carries over 1000lbs more fuel than the P-47M. P-47M has main and aux just like a standard P-47D-40 does. P-47N has a LOT of fuel in the wings.

You lighten a P-47N by draining the wing tanks and with WEP on it'll start performing more like a P-47M.

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Re: P47-N Climb
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2008, 12:35:12 PM »
P-47N carries over 1000lbs more fuel than the P-47M. P-47M has main and aux just like a standard P-47D-40 does. P-47N has a LOT of fuel in the wings.

You lighten a P-47N by draining the wing tanks and with WEP on it'll start performing more like a P-47M.

P47N with it's extra weight in a wider wingspan fuel tanke (even empty) and other various things that aren't mentioned here add up to a significant amount. 

Remember, the M was actually a P-47 D-27 modded to increase pressure on the turbo and with a new engine.
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Re: P47-N Climb
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2008, 12:45:50 PM »
Does anyone have any data on the climb rate of the p47-N?  I've found a few things about the M model, and it's rate of climb was very much superior to the p47-N.  Here is the data I have dug up, P-47 N Climb, it seems to be a bit better than what we have modeled now.  I may just be looking at the wrong stats, any help would be appreciated.

At nearly same weight, 16,300lbs I got it to climb at about 3200fpm right off the deck to few K of alt, before the rate started dropping. But I used .speed command instead of auto climb. IIRC some 10mph less then usual auto climb speed.

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Numbers may not be 100% accurate, since I tested a while ago.

Also, this chart is a bit better: http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/p-47/p-47n-republic-wep.jpg

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Re: P47-N Climb
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2008, 02:06:58 PM »
It just so happens that I have climb data on all four P-47s.. Don't fake being surprised.


Our P-47N climbs better than that shown on the chart referenced, especially above 5,000 feet. Note that the weights are within 300 lbs of each other. I plotted the AH2 P-47N, -25 and -40 on the chart for reference.




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Re: P47-N Climb
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2008, 10:44:03 PM »
As Widewing has pointed out before, "N" sans wep has same horsepower as D40. with heap much more weight. Lotsa guys use wep on N climbout, which rather defeats purpose
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Re: P47-N Climb
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2008, 11:00:01 PM »
As Widewing has pointed out before, "N" sans wep has same horsepower as D40. with heap much more weight.

600 lbs or so more empty weight I think. And N has a larger wing. I think the "problem" with the N is the massive fuel loads it can carry. Remember, the N can fly for the same amount of time on 50% fuel that the D-40 can on 75%. Don't overload it, and there is not much difference on MIL climb D-40/N.


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Re: P47-N Climb
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2008, 10:30:06 AM »
 Thank you for the information fellas.  <S>

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Re: P47-N Climb
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2008, 04:51:56 PM »
P-47N carries over 1000lbs more fuel than the P-47M. P-47M has main and aux just like a standard P-47D-40 does. P-47N has a LOT of fuel in the wings.

You lighten a P-47N by draining the wing tanks and with WEP on it'll start performing more like a P-47M.

the M was totally different than the N in  every way.

it had the same engine, but was propped and tuned different.

the N was designed to be a long haul fly to fight escort with good range, the M was designed, to be a monster.

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Re: P47-N Climb
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2008, 05:44:00 PM »
P-47M = perked

P-63 = Perked

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Re: P47-N Climb
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2008, 07:43:02 PM »
P-47M = perked

P-63 = perked

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Re: P47-N Climb
« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2008, 07:58:20 PM »
No.
P63 would not be perked, P47M could go either way.

if we got the 47M and it wasnt perked, the whines would never stop.. a jug that does 400mph below 10k.. 

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Re: P47-N Climb
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2008, 08:00:04 PM »
The 109K does 400 at 5k  :lol
Really it's not that fast.

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Re: P47-N Climb
« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2008, 08:06:47 PM »
The 109K does 400 at 5k  :lol
Really it's not that fast.

jug turns better, has better high speed handeling, and better firepower at range... so add to that the speed of a K4.. it would be a tad unbalancing

interesting note though, the M never carried ord, it was a pure dog fighter version of the jug.

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Re: P47-N Climb
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2008, 08:08:23 PM »
I'll give you high speed handling, but the K4 can turn with the Jug in a slow fight.