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Offline bongaroo

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Re: WTG Texas!!
« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2008, 12:06:55 PM »
I've said it before and I'll say it again:

Thou shall not kill.


I've lost a lot of faith in organized religion but that is one thing I will always agree on.  The death penalty makes us no better then the criminals.  It doesn't bring closure, it isn't 100% fool proof that we won't kill an innocent person, and the practice sickens me.
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Re: WTG Texas!!
« Reply #31 on: August 06, 2008, 12:07:02 PM »
I'm against death penalty.

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Re: WTG Texas!!
« Reply #32 on: August 06, 2008, 12:09:16 PM »
It doesn't bring closure,

One of the women, a best friend of one of the deceased victims that named her own daughter after the victim, vehemently disagrees with you on this point.

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Re: WTG Texas!!
« Reply #33 on: August 06, 2008, 12:13:56 PM »
I'm against death penalty.

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You are entitled to your opinion.  The one thing the death penalty does do is solve the problem of repeat offenders. 

It sickens me to have had to support this monster for the last 15 years.  I think higher of my tax dollars.
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Re: WTG Texas!!
« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2008, 12:14:42 PM »
One of the women, a best friend of one of the deceased victims that named her own daughter after the victim, vehemently disagrees with you on this point.

I know 2 people who have lost loved ones.  One of them went to watch the executions of the guilty.  He still has nightmares and regrets pushing to have the execution go through.  The second followed the advice not to attend but has also become a firm opponent of the death penalty.
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Re: WTG Texas!!
« Reply #35 on: August 06, 2008, 12:16:13 PM »
You are entitled to your opinion.  The one thing the death penalty does do is solve the problem of repeat offenders. 

It sickens me to have had to support this monster for the last 15 years.  I think higher of my tax dollars.

You know after all the legal battles and appeals it costs more to execute then imprison for life right Skuzzy?  If it is the cost issue you should re examine your position.
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Re: WTG Texas!!
« Reply #36 on: August 06, 2008, 12:18:55 PM »
The appeals do not stop when they are sentenced to life either.  That cost does not go away.

My position is just fine.
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Re: WTG Texas!!
« Reply #37 on: August 06, 2008, 12:23:01 PM »
I'm against death penalty.

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One of these days I'm going to post a picture of myself at a Gun Control Rally with a pro-Life sign in one hand, one in the other announcing my support for allowing Gay and Lesbian marriage, while wearing a giant "I love FDR!" button just to watch the board Conservatives spaz out.

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Re: WTG Texas!!
« Reply #38 on: August 06, 2008, 12:23:46 PM »
The one thing the death penalty does do is solve the problem of repeat offenders.
Wouldn't imprisonment for life with no parole do the same?

I think higher of my tax dollars.
It's very hard for me to put price on human life.
As for the costs of imprisonment, they should work and pay for 'boarding'. The rest should go into the victims fund.

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Re: WTG Texas!!
« Reply #39 on: August 06, 2008, 12:29:00 PM »
One of these days I'm going to post a picture of myself at a Gun Control Rally with a pro-Life sign in one hand, one in the other announcing my support for allowing Gay and Lesbian marriage, while wearing a giant "I love FDR!" button just to watch the board Conservatives spaz out.

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Re: WTG Texas!!
« Reply #40 on: August 06, 2008, 12:31:32 PM »
I'm just plain moderate and think BOTH Parties need to be beat upside the head with the Constitution.

The Conservatives are just more fun to bait. They get so nasty. :D
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Re: WTG Texas!!
« Reply #41 on: August 06, 2008, 12:31:51 PM »
Wouldn't imprisonment for life with no parole do the same?

Not at all.  No parole simply means the inmate does not get a parole hearing.  It does not prevent them from filing appeal after appeal to the courts.

It's very hard for me to put price on human life.
As for the costs of imprisonment, they should work and pay for 'boarding'. The rest should go into the victims fund.

I have no trouble at all placing a price on some.  This particular monster?  I would toss in $5 to help cover the $85.00 for the drugs used in the lethal injection.  I bet that hat could be filled pretty quickly.

EDIT:  It is easy for me.  You see, once this monster did what he did to those two girls, he ceased being a human being.  I would not hesitate to put down a rabid dog and I consider a rabid dog more human than this guy.
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Re: WTG Texas!!
« Reply #42 on: August 06, 2008, 12:45:49 PM »
Not at all.  No parole simply means the inmate does not get a parole hearing.  It does not prevent them from filing appeal after appeal to the courts.

I have no trouble at all placing a price on some.  This particular monster?  I would toss in $5 to help cover the $85.00 for the drugs used in the lethal injection.  I bet that hat could be filled pretty quickly.

EDIT:  It is easy for me.  You see, once this monster did what he did to those two girls, he ceased being a human being.  I would not hesitate to put down a rabid dog and I consider a rabid dog more human than this guy.

I got $5 for the hat.  Remember, in Texas, we're putting in an express lane!! 
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Re: WTG Texas!!
« Reply #43 on: August 06, 2008, 12:55:38 PM »
The appeals do not stop when they are sentenced to life either.  That cost does not go away.

My position is just fine.

The cost of appeals and court time in a death penalty case are exponentially higher than a life without parole case.

There's no going back when someone is dead.  I need to go dig up the old thread about this.  Some people told me they really didn't care if a few innocents were killed along the way.  I was shocked.
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Re: WTG Texas!!
« Reply #44 on: August 06, 2008, 01:03:24 PM »
EDIT: You see, once this monster did what he did to those two girls, he ceased being a human being.  I would not hesitate to put down a rabid dog and I consider a rabid dog more human than this guy.

I see your point.  I was thinking more of what death penalty does to image and perception of authority and the whole legal (justice) system as such.