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Re: The good Senator Rocks the Black Hills
« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2008, 09:14:45 PM »
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We’re not going to pay $4 dollars a gallon for gas (when I am president) because we are going to drill offshore and we are going to drill now. We are doing to drill here and we are going to drill now,” he said. “My opponent doesn’t want to drill, he doesn’t want nuclear power. He wants to inflate your tires


The air in the tires thing cracks me up... The Bush administration has a report noting that if American's inflated their tires to the proper pressure American's would save 800,000 barrels of oil a rear... now juxtapose that with the fact that if we start drilling offshore now, we can get approximately 1.2 million barrels of oil/day in 10 years 

So we can save 800k/year NOW vs. getting 1.2/year in 10 years. 

Maybe Obama isn't wrong? 

Maybe that's why McCain came out last night and agreed with Obama's idea on a tele-town meeting...  :lol

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Re: The good Senator Rocks the Black Hills
« Reply #31 on: August 06, 2008, 09:29:01 PM »
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Re: The good Senator Rocks the Black Hills
« Reply #32 on: August 06, 2008, 09:35:56 PM »

The air in the tires thing cracks me up... The Bush administration has a report noting that if American's inflated their tires to the proper pressure American's would save 800,000 barrels of oil a rear... now juxtapose that with the fact that if we start drilling offshore now, we can get approximately 1.2 million barrels of oil/day in 10 years 

So we can save 800k/year NOW vs. getting 1.2/year in 10 years. 

Maybe Obama isn't wrong? 

Maybe that's why McCain came out last night and agreed with Obama's idea on a tele-town meeting...  :lol

Well crap, I say we pass legislation to require that all tires be filled with nitrogen. 

Think about this....

What percentage of people do you think change their own oil?  I would imagine that this is a fairly low percentage nowadays.  The ones that don't change it themsleves get it changed somewhere and that somewhere is probably already checking the air pressure in the tires.  So I don't buy the 800K a year savings so much.

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Re: The good Senator Rocks the Black Hills
« Reply #33 on: August 06, 2008, 09:41:38 PM »
Well apparently you've never had your car serviced by IffyLube  :lol (just play'n)

I'll see if I can find the report-  :aok

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Re: The good Senator Rocks the Black Hills
« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2008, 09:52:27 PM »

The air in the tires thing cracks me up... The Bush administration has a report noting that if American's inflated their tires to the proper pressure American's would save 800,000 barrels of oil a rear... now juxtapose that with the fact that if we start drilling offshore now, we can get approximately 1.2 million barrels of oil/day in 10 years 

So we can save 800k/year NOW vs. getting 1.2/year in 10 years. 

Maybe Obama isn't wrong? 

Maybe that's why McCain came out last night and agreed with Obama's idea on a tele-town meeting...  :lol
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Re: The good Senator Rocks the Black Hills
« Reply #35 on: August 06, 2008, 10:34:40 PM »
I'm not listening to the DNC... I'm listening to the Bush Administration... that's who I got the 10 year number from

You can see it yourself by going to the Department of Energy's website and following the link to the Energy Information Administration...

Or follow this link and look around.

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Re: The good Senator Rocks the Black Hills
« Reply #36 on: August 07, 2008, 02:53:46 AM »
So McCain volunteered his wife to lick the pickle?

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Re: The good Senator Rocks the Black Hills
« Reply #37 on: August 07, 2008, 03:01:58 AM »
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So we can save 800k/year NOW vs. getting 1.2/year in 10 years

Why not do both? It also doesn't need to take 10 years to get that offshore oil to market. Eliminate most of the red tape involved and that oil could be getting to market in just a couple years.
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Re: The good Senator Rocks the Black Hills
« Reply #38 on: August 07, 2008, 07:23:42 AM »
the fact that we would be committed to drilling would lower prices IMMEDIATELY as the speculators would not be able to ring the oil shortage alarm bells anymore - why do the dumbarsecrats refuse an up or down vote on the issue.. ?? because they know the majority are FOR drilling now and are hoping lowering gas prices (oil dropped same time Bush asked for offshore drilling) kills the issue or puts it on the back burner

we have plenty of oil now - just expensive based on the global need/supply projected into the future - its all about tomorrow, not today as far as oil/gas prices go but many drinking the kool aid fail to see that very basic fact

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the air pressure numberss are based on figures showing the majority of us running around on under inflated tires. the fact is more than 2/3's of us have the brains to keep the proper amount of air in our tires already without the black JC telling us to do so as a means to lower our dependence on foreign oil

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Re: The good Senator Rocks the Black Hills
« Reply #39 on: August 07, 2008, 08:00:41 AM »

The air in the tires thing cracks me up... The Bush administration has a report noting that if American's inflated their tires to the proper pressure American's would save 800,000 barrels of oil a rear... now juxtapose that with the fact that if we start drilling offshore now, we can get approximately 1.2 million barrels of oil/day in 10 years 



The USA could get it done in less than 10 years. Only thing I can see about the 10 year figure is lawsuits / liberal environmentalist trying to stop it - even after it is/was allowed by congress.
Heck, the Alaskan pipeline was completed in 26 months, and from the inception of NASA to NASA putting a man on the moon was 10 years....not to mention how fast the US industry buckled down to produce during WW2.

Setting up new rigs / transport / refining should in no way take 10 years....Rigs seem to pop up over night here drilling in the Barnett shale :)
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Re: The good Senator Rocks the Black Hills
« Reply #40 on: August 07, 2008, 09:49:17 AM »
lets see..  half a million free Americans in a crowd compared to 200,000 captive germans....

dyno....As for the oil thing..  I don't know where you get the 10 year number.. we could have 700,000 or more gallons a day from ANWAR in a very short time... 

As for the 800,000 gallons a day savings from tires... you are talking every tire in the world... nothing to do with America. the savings in America would be tiny and ebb and flow with tune ups and such things.. unless you want more government to inspect every car every week?   or.. some UN police force for every car on the planet?

Even so.. why not encourage tire inflation and drill for oil at the same time?   

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Re: The good Senator Rocks the Black Hills
« Reply #41 on: August 07, 2008, 10:11:21 AM »
I hope so!

I think when most folks get into the voting booth in November, common sense will take over and they will start thinking like a CEO would.

1)  Look at the experience.

2)  Look at the core values.

3)  Look at the sliding scale, left or right of center.


I know the majority of Americans are not that radical left.  I just see a lot of angry liberals who want to punish their fellow Americans for their own mistakes 2 years ago.

Sad.

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Re: The good Senator Rocks the Black Hills
« Reply #42 on: August 07, 2008, 06:32:42 PM »
ooooo lalala

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Re: The good Senator Rocks the Black Hills
« Reply #43 on: August 07, 2008, 06:52:20 PM »
dyno....As for the oil thing..  I don't know where you get the 10 year number.. we could have 700,000 or more gallons a day from ANWAR in a very short time... 
lazs

I hope you realize that it takes atleast 5 years to start seeing results from drilling in ANWAR. I most people's minds that is not a short time at all. People are looking for relief in oil prices right now.
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Re: The good Senator Rocks the Black Hills
« Reply #44 on: August 07, 2008, 07:14:58 PM »
I hope you realize that it takes atleast 5 years to start seeing results from drilling in ANWAR.


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