Obama has a Fix for oil prices

[JoeA]

Off-shore drilling in the lower 48 states will yield approximately 200,000 barrels of oil per day... 20 years from now.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/aeo/otheranalysis/ongr.html]http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/aeo/otheranalysis/ongr.html]http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/aeo/otheranalysis/ongr.html

The 200,000 is way low and the 20 years is way high.  Do you want reality or some government bull*hit?

For example,
Offshore Oil Production Estimate Illustrates Flaws in EIA Forecasting
http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/2008/08/07/offshore-oil-production-estimate-illustrates-flaws-in-eia-forecasting/

You also have to understand that legally, the USGS is the only US organization that can provide oil estimate.  The EIA takes that number and plays with it.  The USGS know almost nothing about off shore oil because exploration is illegal.  The USGS also knows very little about onshore oil until the oil companies start to drill.  For example the USGS did their dance and estimated the Bakken oil field had 151 million barrels of oil.  Then the oil companies did a little exploration and generated some real data for the USGS.  Bases on that very limited data, the USGS increased their estimates *25 fold* to 3-4 billion barrels.  Others (not USGS) say 150+ billion barrels.  I can give examples like this all day long.  The US doesn't know how much oil it has, but the number is an order of magnitude larger than the USGS estimates. 

It's criminal to keep shipping hundreds of billions of US dollars and millions of good paying US oil related jobs to other countries in return for oil when the US already has a huge supply of it's own oil but so much of it is off limits for purely political reasons.

[Rolex]

I never said not to drill for oil. All I said is that inflating your tires saves a lot of gas immediately. You're opposed to proper inflation of tires?

[Slamfire]

I never said not to drill for oil. All I said is that inflating your tires saves a lot of gas immediately. You're opposed to proper inflation of tires?

Tire pressure and fuel economy has been common knowledge for at least 40 years.  Why does Osamabama think this is a new discovery ???  What makes him think that people aren't already doing this ???  I personally have been checking my tires about once a month since probably around 1985 !

Seriously it's insulting - it's like as if he's saying "Wait folks I gotta plan" *pulls out tire pressure gauge* "this baby will save the world ! Vote Me !"

[Bodhi]

It's criminal to keep shipping hundreds of billions of US dollars and millions of good paying US oil related jobs to other countries in return for oil when the US already has a huge supply of it's own oil but so much of it is off limits for purely political reasons.

Well said Joe.

[lazs2]

yep.. 200,000 is for one oil rig..  one.

We have several sites ready for rigs in a year if the moratorium is lifted.   I would say that in 10 years it will be more like 2-3 million gallons a day plus maybe a million from AMWAR

Socialists hate cars.... cars are freedom.. they have been trying to get inside our cars "for our own good" forever.   It will be nothing for them to have all sorts of monitors on our cars and to lower the speed limit to whatever.. they want cars to be expensive to own and more trouble than they are worth so that we will all move into the blue city and ride around on their filthy buses.

oh.. on the rear end gears.. I meant the final drive.  Almost all cars are now built with an overdrive that raises the final ratio.   The old cars.. before the 55 mph speed limit thing had much lower gears (final drive)

The reason democrats don't want us to drill is they really hate cars... read algors book if you don't believe me.. they don't like how it makes us independent.. how it is something they don't have enough control over and how it keeps us out of the cities...  the cities are where they rule.

lazs

[Jackal1]

Interesting perspectives.

Yes, it is punitive.  How many times a day do I get passed by some driver who insists on driving with both feet flat on the floor between stop llights only to arrive at the same destination at the same time as I do.  I am paying for his irresponsibility.  So are you.

How about the high school kid who is driving a monster 4x4 with a 454 engine in it who grannies along at 10 MPH getting .5 miles to the gallon?

And everyone is ok with that?

Sometimes a solution to a problem is not a happy pill to swallow.  If you think everyone should be allowed to drive in an irresponsible manner, then I concede.  I am more than happy to swallow the responsibility for my driving style at the pump.  If I drive stupid, I should pay more for the privilege.  If I drive smart I would like to see an 'atta boy' at the pump.

We are talking about a privilege, not a right.

I look at it like this.  Anything we can do to reduce the gasoline consumption in our country is a win for everyone.  If you think that demand can be met forever based on what is in the ground, then I am pissing in the wind and will keep my trap shut and move along.

Yep. Socialism and communism is the only true hope.

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[lazs2]

Not only that but what you eat and how often you exercise affect each and every one of us with health care issues... and..  if you live out away from the city you are using our resources.   every thing you do affects the rest of us so must be regulated and controlled and the only way to do that is to have a bigger and stronger government with more regulations..

sure.. it may cost 10 times as much and take away all your freedom but.. it will surely be worth it.

lazs

[Jackal1]

Not only that but what you eat and how often you exercise affect each and every one of us with health care issues... and..  if you live out away from the city you are using our resources.   every thing you do affects the rest of us so must be regulated and controlled and the only way to do that is to have a bigger and stronger government with more regulations..

sure.. it may cost 10 times as much and take away all your freedom but.. it will surely be worth it.

lazs

The multiple rainbows and a VW in every garage would be worth the effort alone.

[Bronk]

All I said is that inflating your tires saves a lot of gas immediately.

Damn and I've been running around with NO air in them.

[bj229r]

Lol I wonder how many people are gonna die because they went out and over-inflated their tires (Duct tape revisited!)

[Elfie]

Damn and I've been running around with NO air in them.

You retard your supposed to put air in them!!





 

[redman555]

BOOOO OBAMA!! BOOOOO     WOOT WOOT MCCAIN!!!

-BigBOBCH

[WWhiskey]

Lol I wonder how many people are gonna die because they went out and over-inflated their tires (Duct tape revisited!)

  i 've been wondering the same thing
tire makers are going to love this one!sells alot of new tires when you run them over inflated!
by the way i wonder how much oil is in a tire?
 70 % of Americans already inflate to the proper air pressure now!
the other 30% will not all do this, only about 15% will pay more att. to there tires for a short time then go back to driving around like they do today!  so only about .9% savings of gas instead of the 3 too 4 percent the Messiah bragged about! some where earlier in this thread someone said we already use 3 to 4 % less fuel than we did when this whole train wreck started, by the Messiah's math!!  we should already be off foreign oil!!!
 we will still be adding cars and trucks to our roads for a long time so even if we conserve the numbers will still catch up.
to borrow from T Boone pickens, we cant conserve our way out of this!  unless you all just want too set in the dark?

 

 
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I wil say this and then stop.

So, when someone acts irresponsibly, which causes a negative impact on another person it is ok.

Since when did privileges at the expense of others become appropriate?  I missed that memo.

 
 
 

just after you said it was a "privilege" is when that happened!!! if it was a right then your right would have been infringed on,, but as long as it is a "privilege" only the ones who can afford it, will get too do it!!
 if you want to make driving a right you might find more support!

[Bronk]

Lol I wonder how many people are gonna die because they went out and over-inflated their tires (Duct tape revisited!)

Remember all those SUVs blowing out tires due to under-inflation? Get ready for round 2.

[CAP1]

Tire pressure and fuel economy has been common knowledge for at least 40 years.  Why does Osamabama think this is a new discovery ???  What makes him think that people aren't already doing this ???  I personally have been checking my tires about once a month since probably around 1985 !

Seriously it's insulting - it's like as if he's saying "Wait folks I gotta plan" *pulls out tire pressure gauge* "this baby will save the world ! Vote Me !"

8 out of 10 cars the come into my shop have tires at a minimum of 7lbs under inflated