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Offline Toad

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Re: What should the government cut?
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2008, 11:13:29 AM »
Ok, now how many of you will actually vote Libertarian? Vote for change?

Probably 5% tops; the rest of yas will be like the rest of the sheeple and flock things up by voting either Rep or Dem.

Sad truth.
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Re: What should the government cut?
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2008, 11:15:07 AM »
The Department of Education, completely.
The Internal Revenue Service, by 90% (it doesn't take much to administer a flat tax).
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, again by 90%.
That's a start.

I think the Fair Tax (not a flat tax but a consumption tax) is the best solution. Anyone buying anything then pays taxes and all the embedded taxes we have now would vanish! Prices of cars and even gasoline would come down. America would be a tax haven and businesses and manufacturing would return to our shores! Our politicians have killed our Economy!

The reason I quoted you was that we dont need the IRS at all. Consumption taxes can be collected by the states individual departments of agriculture the same agency that regulates weights and measures.
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Re: What should the government cut?
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2008, 01:06:21 PM »
Ok, now how many of you will actually vote Libertarian? Vote for change?

Probably 5% tops; the rest of yas will be like the rest of the sheeple and flock things up by voting either Rep or Dem.

Sad truth.



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Re: What should the government cut?
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2008, 06:52:24 PM »
Ok, now how many of you will actually vote Libertarian? Vote for change?

Probably 5% tops; the rest of yas will be like the rest of the sheeple and flock things up by voting either Rep or Dem.

Sad truth.

Indeed.

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Re: What should the government cut?
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2008, 08:01:15 PM »
Ok, now how many of you will actually vote Libertarian? Vote for change?

Probably 5% tops; the rest of yas will be like the rest of the sheeple and flock things up by voting either Rep or Dem.

Sad truth.
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Re: What should the government cut?
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2008, 08:45:18 PM »
Ok, now how many of you will actually vote Libertarian? Vote for change?

Probably 5% tops; the rest of yas will be like the rest of the sheeple and flock things up by voting either Rep or Dem.

Sad truth.

C'mon man. With the amount of statements that have been made that are little more then official soundbites from the RNC around (and a few from the DNC)here lately you have to ask that question?

Just a "Rah! Rah! Go Team!" Mentality. No original thought required. The panic has already set in and pre programing has been activated.
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Re: What should the government cut?
« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2008, 09:01:17 PM »
Cuts I would make.

Make it illegal for direct or indirect campaign contributions of any kind to a candidate.
All contributions wold have to be made to a national pool which would be divided evenly among all candidates and that would be ALL they would be allowed to spend. With their funds being accounted for down tot he penny with no exemptions.

Cut access of corporations and special intrest groups to elected officials
Institute an equal access amendment to the Constitution forbidding any elected official to grant access to special intrest groups or corporations any more then they do the private citizen

Cut the health and retirement benifits of public officials to the same amount the lowest paid government employee gets.

Reduce double dipping by public officials. One pension, one benifit package, one salary reguardless of how many government positions you hold.

Cut funding to federal prisons by 50%
If a shoplifter in jail doesnt get a tennis court. Then neither should a convicted government official.
Or those convicted of bribing government officials. Jail should be jail...period.
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Re: What should the government cut?
« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2008, 10:19:21 PM »
Everything, let's start over again. We have a pretty damn good blueprint on our hands.


Force an election where none who has served already can run (no incumbents), or just pick 435 + 100 names out of the phone book. Those elected/selected get their last month's salary + inflation. Can serve one term only and then back to where you came from. No bennies, just the extension of what you had before your term. NOTHING extra after you leave.

Now, this is what I call a service to your country.


Abolish all laws as of some future date, and then before that happens, force a vote on all of them. The obviously good/productive ones will pass over and over. Pork and socialist crap will fail every time.


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This is a good plan.  The people I'd trust the most to run this country are the people that don't want power.
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Re: What should the government cut?
« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2008, 04:46:46 AM »
Everything, let's start over again. We have a pretty damn good blueprint on our hands.


Force an election where none who has served already can run (no incumbents), or just pick 435 + 100 names out of the phone book. Those elected/selected get their last month's salary + inflation. Can serve one term only and then back to where you came from. No bennies, just the extension of what you had before your term. NOTHING extra after you leave.

Now, this is what I call a service to your country.


Abolish all laws as of some future date, and then before that happens, force a vote on all of them. The obviously good/productive ones will pass over and over. Pork and socialist crap will fail every time.






Yeah, but which phonebook to use...I can think of some entire area codes' that should NEVER produce a gov't. official.

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Re: What should the government cut?
« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2008, 04:54:50 AM »
cut welfare and pork
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Re: What should the government cut?
« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2008, 09:56:16 AM »
doesn't anyone have a government program that they think is great and needs MORE funding?

As for libertarian..   I have wasted my vote on libertarians probly more than anyone here over the years.

Face it..  there just aren't many people who are comfortable with freedom..

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Re: What should the government cut?
« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2008, 10:03:26 AM »
doesn't anyone have a government program that they think is great and needs MORE funding?

NASA.  I'd triple NASA funding, with the requirement that they resuscitate the X-38 for low earth orbit winged reentry access to the ISS.

Put it on top of a shuttle SRB and fly 4 or 5 'nauts to the ISS.  that way we don't have all our orbital eggs in one basket again with the Orion system.

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Re: What should the government cut?
« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2008, 10:27:33 AM »
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Re: What should the government cut?
« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2008, 10:44:28 AM »
doesn't anyone have a government program that they think is great and needs MORE funding?

As for libertarian..   I have wasted my vote on libertarians probly more than anyone here over the years.

Face it..  there just aren't many people who are comfortable with freedom..

lazs

College scholarships
Veterans benefits.
Work training programs.
About the only thing that Carter did right was his work training programs. Around here is was called CETA. I know it went by different names in different areas. This was a GOOD program. Unfortunately its the one thing I can fault Regan for as he cut it.

These programs arent just handouts for the lazy.Or "bridges to nowhere" They are investments in the future.
They help people to help themselves and the return over the long haul is far greater then the investment.
I know alot of people who got their start in such programs. Myself included.
After my father split. One such program helped my mother get us back off foodstamps after only a few months re enter the workforce  and as a result was able to raise two kids BY HERSELF. Without relying on welfare
She now owns her own home and is able to retire in at least semi reasonable comfort.

Libertarianism is on the rise. becoming more and more popular. Even the big two are starting to take it more and more seriously.
It will in the not to distant future become a real force as it gains in influence.so your vote wasnt wasted.
Its helped lay the groundwork for another option.
Think of it as an investment in the future.
Gotta crawl before you can walk.

"Wasted vote" is a BS term used if you notice by only the two biggies to get you to vote for them.
I remember "A Vote for Nader is a vote for Bush" then there is the bogus Perot claim in Bush Sr. vs Clinton.
but thats already been easily debunked

A vote is only "wasted" if you either dont really like either party but vote for them anyway.
And of course the biggest and truest form of wasted vote.
Is the vote that isnt cast at all
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Re: What should the government cut?
« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2008, 10:50:27 AM »
Cut all services to Illegals, get out of NAFTA,  chit can the ( so-called) North American Union and remove all supporters from Government jobs and public office.  
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