New Arena

[XAKL]

Just a question. 

I've been asking this for in the AvA forum, but it seems to get nowhere.  I know we have the early, mid, and all arena, but I don't like shooting down a P-51 with my P-51.  The AvA has limited plane sets and other scenarios which inhibit game play.  My suggestion is this, an arena where all the planes and vehicles are available to their respectful country.  Allies (Americans Brits Russians)= Rooks, Axis(Germans, Japan, Italians)= knits, Neutral Base=bish.  Small hanger= only early war planes are available with all vehicles(except perked vehicle).  Medium hanger= midwar planes and late warplanes (except perked) and all vehicles, Large hanger= All planes and all vehicles.   Use regular map and see what happens.  I haven't received much support from the Allies Vs Axis areana.

Call the Areana, simply "The War"


MUGADAI

[BoilerDown]

I think that's a great idea!

[Lusche]

Unbalanced plane sets. For example Axis has only Ju-88 and Ki-67 bombers, while Allies have B-17, B-24, Lancaster. If map has CV's, the situation is similar: A6M's only against the plethora of American blue planes.

[whiteman]

would be cool if they could make it work.

[Vudak]

Unbalanced plane sets. For example Axis has only Ju-88 and Ki-67 bombers, while Allies have B-17, B-24, Lancaster. If map has CV's, the situation is similar: A6M's only against the plethora of American blue planes.

There are difficulties, but it still would be interesting to see if anyone actually bothered to fly in there.

Besides, adjusting perk prices & planes might do a thing or two to help the balance problem.

[Yenny]

Damn, You'd see me only in 190s and 109s if that happen! it would mean no more 38s =/

[NHawk]

The puzzle here is what planes do the neutral country fly?

If the answer is none, then that would eliminate the idea just because you're eliminating the country and making it a two sided war.

If the answer is all, then everyone would gravitate to that country for the plane selection thus removing any hope of balance.

[CAP1]

Unbalanced plane sets. For example Axis has only Ju-88 and Ki-67 bombers, while Allies have B-17, B-24, Lancaster. If map has CV's, the situation is similar: A6M's only against the plethora of American blue planes.

this is true......but don't forget......it's more the plane than it is the pilot.

in my case it's irrelevent, as i suck, but i'd be somewhat willing to bet that you in an old heap of a plane could take on quite a few planes that "outclass" what you're flying.

<<S>>

[Lusche]

this is true......but don't forget......it's more the plane than it is the pilot.

In 1v1 doghfight: yes.  But not in a "war".

Allied CV attacks base. F4U's, F6F's, Seafires, TBM'S can put a rain of ords on the town.
Axis side? A6M's, D3A's, B5N's hardly can do the same.

The defender ups heavy bombers from a rear base. The Allies can up F4U's to intercept that Ju88's. The Axis side could try to stop fast, durable and heaviily armed bombers with Zero's only.

And regardless of individual pilot skill (which usually is pretty even in larger scenarios), the Axis side can hardly mount big  bombing missions shutting down several fields in succession. - Ju 88's can simply not survive as long as B17's

[Masherbrum]

It's a good thing the Ki-61 is a POS!   

No thank you on this idea.   

[XAKL]

Unbalanced plane sets. For example Axis has only Ju-88 and Ki-67 bombers, while Allies have B-17, B-24, Lancaster. If map has CV's, the situation is similar: A6M's only against the plethora of American blue planes.

That's why this would be so interesting.  Don't forget that Axis have good GV's for now, and the jets.  Also, Allies may have the big bombers but Axis have great interceptors.  Infact, most bases captured in MA involves tight group fighter bombers flying NOE, and heavy bombers are rarely employed.

MUGADAI

[The Fugitive]

They had the axis and allied arena set strait up before and nobody used it. They have been "tweaking" it for months now looking to get it so that people will try it and enjoy it. I check it out now and then, but there just isn't enough people around. The same goes for Mid War, I'd much father fly there so I could fight something other than the "uber" rides, but it isn't that populated either.

[CAP1]

In 1v1 doghfight: yes.  But not in a "war".

Allied CV attacks base. F4U's, F6F's, Seafires, TBM'S can put a rain of ords on the town.
Axis side? A6M's, D3A's, B5N's hardly can do the same.

The defender ups heavy bombers from a rear base. The Allies can up F4U's to intercept that Ju88's. The Axis side could try to stop fast, durable and heaviily armed bombers with Zero's only.

And regardless of individual pilot skill (which usually is pretty even in larger scenarios), the Axis side can hardly mount big  bombing missions shutting down several fields in succession. - Ju 88's can simply not survive as long as B17's

maybe true, but how many bombers do you really see survive a skilled and determined attacker? regardless of what type of bomber?

 me personally, i die just as easily in a b17 as i do in a ju88.

it may be unbalanced, but i think it could be fun too.

<<S>>

[Lusche]

maybe true, but how many bombers do you really see survive a skilled and determined attacker? regardless of what type of bomber?

Quite a lot.


You know what's coming now...

In current tour 103 for example, all fighter planes have a K/D of 2.58 vs the B-17, but 6.08 vs Ju-88. That's quite a significant difference. The type of bomber does apparently matter.



And sorry for the hijack 

[Denholm]

This sounds like CT.