I was watching the Military Channel this morning and...

[angelsandair]

There was this show called 'Hell in the Pacific' which was a 2 part series on the whole pacific war. It was a really good film. It had interviews with some Aces, including one of the big ones a guadalcanal ( I dont remember the name) and had real film, some of it showing the true views the soldiers saw.

Some of the stuff those vetrans talked about was very strange too. There really was a hatred between the American ground forces and Japanese Ground forces.



Very good documentary, didn't change the channel once while watching it.

[Fulmar]

I miss summer vacation.  Enjoy it while it lasts.

[Hangtime]

There was this show called 'Hell in the Pacific' which was a 2 part series on the whole pacific war. It was a really good film. It had interviews with some Aces, including one of the big ones a guadalcanal ( I dont remember the name) and had real film, some of it showing the true views the soldiers saw.

Some of the stuff those vetrans talked about was very strange too. There really was a hatred between the American ground forces and Japanese Ground forces.

Very good documentary, didn't change the channel once while watching it.

The troops were aware of what happened to the 125,000 men that surrendered at Corregidor and Bataan. They also got to listen every night to their buddies being tortured. There was no quarter given in the Pacific. My father-in-law, a decorated veteran of the pacific war is now 90 years old. He still trembles with fury and rage when he sees a 'Jap Bastard'. Our fathers paid a terrible price throwing back the Japanese. They still pay the price; those that survived.

[IronDog]

Guadalcanal set the tone for what lay ahead in the Pacific.The Japanese where overconfident,and vastly underrated the fighting abilities of the US fighting man.I had a friend...passed away now,God rest his soul,that was at Guadalcanal,and Tarawa,and he said worst part of Guadalcanal was lack of food,sleep,and malaria etc.He said the Japs would charge,and we would pile them up.Kind of callous,but it was the way it was.He was a runner on Tarawa...he was small of stature,so harder target,and he told me,how he got through it was pure luck.

[sunfan1121]

I was watching that as well. It was really cool to get the perspective from both sides. I almost died laughing when one of the US vets was  talking about how the US fleet ambushed the IJN at Midway. It went something like "The Japanese showed up on our doorstep with flowers, and we were waiting on the other side with a axe ready to cut there heads off."

[trax1]

Any of you guys heard about the guy that they use for commentary alot on the "Military Channel" named Aryeh Nusbacher, I always thought this guy looked a little off, well I guess this is why, he had a sex change and is now a women, he's a professor at Sandhurst university in England and even taught Prince William & Harry, I wonder if the "Military Channel" will still use him.  Heres a article in "The Sun" about it:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article27762.ece

[midnight Target]

The troops were aware of what happened to the 125,000 men that surrendered at Corregidor and Bataan. They also got to listen every night to their buddies being tortured. There was no quarter given in the Pacific. My father-in-law, a decorated veteran of the pacific war is now 90 years old. He still trembles with fury and rage when he sees a 'Jap Bastard'. Our fathers paid a terrible price throwing back the Japanese. They still pay the price; those that survived.

My father -in-law was in the 2nd Marines. Landed in the 1st wave at Bouganville, was wounded on Guam in 1944. His unit went to Iwo without him due to the injury. He loves telling stories about it, but they mostly revolve around his friends and his beer ration. He did say that he was the most frightened on Bouganville when a large earthquake hit. They had to dig marines out of collapsed holes and some were killed when a cliffside fell on them.

[Goth]

I remember a conversation in the late '70's between my father and his employer. Due to the gas crisis, many were buying fuel efficient Japanese cars. I'll never forget the venom with which my dad's employer spoke about the Japanese and how he hated them in not so kind words (can't use them on this board for sure). That generation had a deep hatred of the Japanese for not only what they did at Pearl, but also how they treated our PoW's.

Today, I understand the Japanese mentality, and I also have an understanding of the corner they were backed into prior to the war. Trying to convince my dad and his generation is a totally different thing, and I doubt forgiveness would ever be given by most to the Japanese people.

[Hangtime]

I remember a conversation in the late '70's between my father and his employer. Due to the gas crisis, many were buying fuel efficient Japanese cars. I'll never forget the venom with which my dad's employer spoke about the Japanese and how he hated them in not so kind words (can't use them on this board for sure). That generation had a deep hatred of the Japanese for not only what they did at Pearl, but also how they treated our PoW's.

Today, I understand the Japanese mentality, and I also have an understanding of the corner they were backed into prior to the war. Trying to convince my dad and his generation is a totally different thing, and I doubt forgiveness would ever be given by most to the Japanese people.

The japanese... like the Russians, behaved inexcusably. The 'corner' they were in was entirely of their own creation.

http://www.gotrain.com/dan/nanking1.htm

 

[angelsandair]

The troops were aware of what happened to the 125,000 men that surrendered at Corregidor and Bataan. They also got to listen every night to their buddies being tortured. There was no quarter given in the Pacific. My father-in-law, a decorated veteran of the pacific war is now 90 years old. He still trembles with fury and rage when he sees a 'Jap Bastard'. Our fathers paid a terrible price throwing back the Japanese. They still pay the price; those that survived.

I dont object to it, but the only way I can explain it is as 'strange' Dont know what other word I can use to put it. Shoot, it even had unedited clips of them shooting wounded Japanese soldiers in the head.

[lyric1]

I dont object to it, but the only way I can explain it is as 'strange' Dont know what other word I can use to put it. Shoot, it even had unedited clips of them shooting wounded Japanese soldiers in the head.

My father(His picture is on the left) was a WW11 & Korean war Vetran In the Australian army he fought against the Vichy French,Italians,Germans as well as the Japanese during WW11. The hatred my father had towards the Japanese he carried to his dieing day. He never spoke much of the war & he did take pictures there still back in Australia & have not seen them in a while. He has one that had two skulls of Japanese soldiers that had been attached to the left & right mud guards of a US jeep. I asked him about this picture & was told they were prisoners caught by Marines who killed them & mounted the heads until they were just bone. Some Marine units had what they called Possum Squads & what they did was shot every Japanese body because live soldiers would hide amongst the dead & pop up later & start shooting. My point for posting this is that good men put into horrific situations will do what they must to get through. I to have no blame towards these guys.

[angelsandair]

My Uncle was in the 27th Division during Saipan, he had gotten wounded by some shrapenal and then shot in the upper leg, they thought that he was going to die, so they put him out back outside of the tent with the other Marine and Army dead, that night, Japanese Raiders killed everyone inside the tent while he was outside and survived. He told of it once, and how he listened to his 2 good friends get killed just feet next to him.

The war in the Pacific was definately the wosrt out there. My Uncle had a few Japanese Rifles, a samuri sword, and a japanese helmet he collected off the dead at his house. When I asked why (I was very little before he died) he told me so he would never forget what they did to his friends.

[Holden McGroin]

[angelsandair]

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It isn't a movie, it's a documentary.

[Holden McGroin]

It isn't a movie, it's a documentary.

The one with Lee Marvin is a movie.

...and documentaries are movies:  they just aren't dramas.