to all 190 pilots

[Animl]

What's your in game name? I want to see your 190.

HUH??
I don't post in shades

[uptown]

   SkyRocks work is never done. The noobs just keep coming 

[BaldEagl]

You guys are making me miss my old A8.  I've had a lot of luck turnfighting in the A8 against just about everything.  On the other hand I've had a lot of bad luck fighting in the A8 against just about everything.  Beating a "superior" turn fighter in an A8 is very gratifying.  190's will surprise you if you give 'em a chance and that's why you can win; the element of surprise when you start turn-fighting in one.

[007Rusty]

<S> Sir good to see ya still around...             
this is getten good I want film
 

hehe, i waited 9 pages in the shadows for that one. a DA challenge was inevitable. 

[Ack-Ack]

It's been about 15 years since I flew a FW190-A8 (used to be my main ride) in another game in a bygone era but when I used to tangle with angle fighters, I'd use my better roll rate and vertical turns to get inside of the angle fighter's turn for a deflection shot.  Not that I was always successful but more often than not, I came out the winner.  YMMV.


ack-ack

[Vudak]

I have yet to meet a 190 that could do that, or seen a film of one. If that's posible it would be awesome to learn, but I really doubt it.

Going back to this...  I took a 190A8 50% fuel up in the DA furball area today in an attempt to provide you with an example of a different style:

http://www.mediafire.com/?aafwvdbzby8

I merge with a faster Ki84 that is pretty much coalt.  I lose this fight, but I sure had a fun time doing so, and I certainly didn't feel helpless...  I had my chances, but was outflown.

Bear in mind that I rarely fly the 190 and am unfamiliar with its edge or envelope...  Just giving it a wing.  There are many much better examples, but hopefully this will give you an idea of the sort of style that I enjoy.  If I can last this long on day one of winging it, I'm sure a guy devoted to the bird could do very much better.

(If you're wondering why my recorded views are jumping all over the place, it's because I decided to be an inpatient idiot and buy a widescreen monitor before AH2 supports it It's hard to keep track of people when the sky that used to be there is there no more).

[Yenny]

Good fight, certainly w/ the alts it wasn't bad fighting with its nose pointing down. The Ki pilot seems made a few mistake when you both did rolling scissors, and scissor once you both were otd. If he chop that throttle like most experience would do and saddle in, the fight wouldn't have gone that long.

Let's not talk about going v. inexperience pilots though. I've done it a lot in D9 v. spit just fine vs the newer guys. BUt we gotta look at both players with the same skill level. That's where the different in performance in the 190 will greatly notice.

[Oldman731]

It's been about 15 years since I flew a FW190-A8 (used to be my main ride) in another game in a bygone era but when I used to tangle with angle fighters, I'd use my better roll rate and vertical turns to get inside of the angle fighter's turn for a deflection shot.  Not that I was always successful but more often than not, I came out the winner.  YMMV.

My mileage varies.  That plane is a pig.  Been trying for years to pretend that it's at least one of the better looking pigs, but no luck.

- oldman ('course, the P-40B is even worse....)

[Vudak]

Good fight, certainly w/ the alts it wasn't bad fighting with its nose pointing down. The Ki pilot seems made a few mistake when you both did rolling scissors, and scissor once you both were otd. If he chop that throttle like most experience would do and saddle in, the fight wouldn't have gone that long.

Let's not talk about going v. inexperience pilots though. I've done it a lot in D9 v. spit just fine vs the newer guys. BUt we gotta look at both players with the same skill level. That's where the different in performance in the 190 will greatly notice.

Yeah, we both made many mistakes.  But I'm unused to the 190, so "experience" is relative there.  'Sides, I wasn't cutting throttle in the rollin scissor, either.  I didn't know what that would do to its handling...

Keep in mind I have no idea who the guy is until the fight is over.  Still, I go for it.  Even if I did know who the other guy was, I'd still go for it.  That's the big difference between us...

[Animl]

You guys are making me miss my old A8.  I've had a lot of luck turnfighting in the A8 against just about everything.  On the other hand I've had a lot of bad luck fighting in the A8 against just about everything.  Beating a "superior" turn fighter in an A8 is very gratifying.  190's will surprise you if you give 'em a chance and that's why you can win; the element of surprise when you start turn-fighting in one.

Agreed
There seems to be two windows in speed where the A8/190 becomes startling better then you'd think it is. And that is where it usually becomes under estimated by the enmy. They are indeed very short windows of time, a honey spot in speed, find it. <shrug>

It's like a roller coaster, it will always keep you on edge and good for adrenaline flow trying to stay alive against a better plane and or better pilot. It's the hot seat, and I like it that way. A roller coaster isn't worth a crap if it doesn't scare you.

I don't get that same feeling in what *I* will call "easy mode" AC, because there's no tingling when you know you're always on top of the fight. Those are great learning planes for th eore challenging stufff.

IMO, It's pulling out from *under* a fight and coming out on top is the funnest part to me. Which is why you'll always find me flying into a horde or on the deck draggin 3-6 AC. My goal is to come out on top of all that kack, which is why my rank is the way it is, because it's VERY rare that you will and I rarely make it home. 1-1 fights become seemingly rather easy\boring stuffff. Give me 2-1 or 3-1 and I'm pumped. That's not saying I like that because I am great, because I am not, I just like it. I don't expect to win, I expect to have fun trying. Winning is just icing on the cake.

IMO people who despise "Easy Mode" planes, are probably just adrenaline junkies, likea me. They like the roller coaster scaring them. Why I like the 190.

I think what Sky sees is someone just getting to know the 190, and just happens to take it to the level of "you suck", but i know it goes with his "persona".

There's always someone new, or someone trying a new AC,... trying to get out of easy mode. Should appreciate the fact the guy has the guts\nuts to fly the 190. No offense but IMO no one needs a lot of guts nor skill to fly a spit or a f4 to name a few. The guts comes in flying a plane you think can't do it and learning how to make it do it. I refer back to the roller coaster.

[Vudak]

The guts comes in flying a plane you think can't do it and learning how to make it do it. I refer back to the roller coaster.

That does of course require the guy to try to do it.  I think you'll agree many 190 sticks (actually, many sticks in general) skip that step

It sounds like you're an exception, in that case, I can't wait to run into you

[SkyRock]

working on some training films for dora pilots!








 

[SkyRock]

Tin lizzy, couldnt make midnight tonight, try me again when you see me on.

[angelsandair]

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Make some for me on how to not HO  

[SkyRock]

Make some for me on how to not HO  

funny you mention that, I have one where I dodge 6 HO's flying towards some cons, not one of them prep for merge on me 6, all blow by HOing away.