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Offline Arty

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Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
« Reply #30 on: August 12, 2008, 06:29:21 PM »
I was actually not one of those who declared that Waffen SS should be banned as a squad name.  I only pointed out that if Waffen SS is going to be banned for its racist connotations, then Lynchmob certainly qualifies on that score.  Sure, some cattle rustlers may have been lynched by townspeople in the wild west, but don't even try to tell me that the major connotation that 99.9% of Americans would read into that word, stated with no other context, is anything other than that of hooded white guys stringing up a black guy from a tree.



Actually, I am thinking your wrong on this point. It might be more of a regional thing, when I asked my co-workers today what they thought of when they heard the word "lynchmob" everyone thought of the old west. Just my 2 cents on the subject.

As for the SS name, I could care aless. Maybe they are just a big fan of old time muscle cars. Its a game, enjoy it, if you don't, play scrabble.

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Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2008, 06:34:09 PM »
I was actually not one of those who declared that Waffen SS should be banned as a squad name.  I only pointed out that if Waffen SS is going to be banned for its racist connotations, then Lynchmob certainly qualifies on that score.  Sure, some cattle rustlers may have been lynched by townspeople in the wild west, but don't even try to tell me that the major connotation that 99.9% of Americans would read into that word, stated with no other context, is anything other than that of hooded white guys stringing up a black guy from a tree.

To disallow Waffen SS and allow The Lynchmob is hypocrisy, pure and simple.

Oh, and one more thing.  Ok, so you agree that it's wrong for a mob to hang a black guy out of racism, but it's just A-OK for a mob of citizens to pull a guy out of jail and hang him in the street?  Huh?  Since when is America about vigilante justice and extrajudicial killings?  If you think Lynchmob is ok as a squad name because not all of the lynchings were of black people, you should think again.  Nothing about lynching was good, whether it was black guys, cattle rustlers, Tories, or whoever else.

Why do you have to bring our squad into this? Smokey explained why the name was chosen. What more do you want? We have been a very upstanding squad for the 2+ years we have been in existance. What do you expect to get out of this?
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Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2008, 07:14:11 PM »
Why does anyone even care about a stupid squad name.We are all adults if it offends you then get over it. They are just words from people you most likely will never even meet.I like to get rid of things that offend me,for example all the mexicans invading my community and taking jobs from teenagers,but hey what can i do about it.Nothing so get over it right.Call me what you want but atleast i got the balls to say it. Now go on  tear into me,i like reading other points of view between flights.

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Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2008, 07:33:01 PM »
I have to admit...My squaddies and I are guilty of discrimination and do exercise in prejudice. We dont like red guys..we do however like the green guys. We discriminate by attacking the low icons rather than the high alt ones. and yes..we cant stand some nations..especially the rook and knit ones when we fly for bish. Redneck yahoos?..anyone ever hear of redneck yahoos that have a European division?Personally, I wouldnt take offense to some squad's name even if was Waffen SS. Chances are it is probably some ignorant squeeker who doesnt know any better. I would bet that squad wouldnt even last a week if noone payed any attention to it. Giving it any sort of attention would open new doors and then invite people to join just for the shock factor. Bottom line is folks..We are here to fly and pay our money to do it. We shouldnt be bothered by how people present themselves in here unless it does affect your fun here. Let Hitech worry about any legal issues pertaining to the subject because you know..they are the ones that have to deal with it and will deal with it if it becomes a problem.
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Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2008, 07:43:20 PM »
I was actually not one of those who declared that Waffen SS should be banned as a squad name.  I only pointed out that if Waffen SS is going to be banned for its racist connotations, then Lynchmob certainly qualifies on that score.  Sure, some cattle rustlers may have been lynched by townspeople in the wild west, but don't even try to tell me that the major connotation that 99.9% of Americans would read into that word, stated with no other context, is anything other than that of hooded white guys stringing up a black guy from a tree.

To disallow Waffen SS and allow The Lynchmob is hypocrisy, pure and simple.

Oh, and one more thing.  Ok, so you agree that it's wrong for a mob to hang a black guy out of racism, but it's just A-OK for a mob of citizens to pull a guy out of jail and hang him in the street?  Huh?  Since when is America about vigilante justice and extrajudicial killings?  If you think Lynchmob is ok as a squad name because not all of the lynchings were of black people, you should think again.  Nothing about lynching was good, whether it was black guys, cattle rustlers, Tories, or whoever else.

let me guess!

you are an emotionally stricken Black individual who must harp on something that has long since past, and think that this  Forum that is a priviledge given to the community to communicate, is a place to speak out about how something that is not even thought of by 99.9% of all people in the USA do not even think about these days, is somehow making you emotionally distressed and you think you must speak up for your rights and compare 2 completely different meanings, to show how ignorant you actually are.! damn looks like a bullseye to me with that arrow                   image of how sethipus is acting in this thread = --->  :cry


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Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2008, 07:53:11 PM »
I didn't bother to read all the drivel, but I <S> the Lynchmob for the members in that squad as it pertains to Aces High. I know the definition of what a real-life lynchmob is, and I'm mature enough to overlook it. Don't let the politically correct turkeys bring you down, guys... You're a stand-up bunch. <S>
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Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2008, 10:37:11 PM »
I know we really got some hot conversation going over whether it's appropriate for a squad to be named after the Waffen SS.

I really want to know, given how obviously inappropriate it is, in peoples' eyes, for a Waffen SS squad to exist, how in the hell is there still a Lynchmob squad?

So, what, Waffen SS isn't allowed because some members of the Waffen SS killed jews and performed some atrocities in WWII, but groups of rednecked yahoos stringing up black folk for looking too fondly at a white girl are perfectly fine for a squad name? 

i don't remember the world trying lynchmobers for genocide,all in all i don't care what name a squad has like it or leave it.HOWEVER i don't like someone trying to bash my squads name on the bbs,we strive hard to be upstanding in the community :D we do not discriminate against anyone so go troll elsewhere!Also i find it offencive about your use of redneck ,maybe you should come to the hills the trees are real pretty in the fall.


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Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2008, 11:13:09 PM »
Yes Ghastly i was in a hurry was gonna be late for work so i was typimg way to fast an my fingers outran my brain i did in fact meen Louis L'Amour

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Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2008, 11:15:10 PM »
CAP1,

Last I checked this whole conversation says we live in the USA.

We should thank God HTC isn't required by law to report improper squad names and player names to a government department of human rights. If the servers were based in Canada, England or the EU; HTC could be reported for allowing squad names that create a hostile or offensive environment. I'm surprised some EU sqweekers mother hasen't filed a complaint yet. Let alone if a player accidently uses an aribic name that makes fun of that man who married a 9 year old girl in the 700's and told his followers it was ok to murder and steal from non-followers in the name of his moon god stone at Madina.
Well I think some of your comment's are a little short sighted & yes this a game that is based out of the USA with for the most part American players. Since the game is on the internet & is subject to rules & regulations based off what other countries allow, there are things AH11 have to watch out for to be permitted to be used in other country's. Why are there no swastikas on the German planes? because they are banned in Germany so if we were to have them Germany would not have AH11 & there for a source of revenue is gone for Hitech.

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Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
« Reply #39 on: August 13, 2008, 06:30:11 AM »
Well I think some of your comment's are a little short sighted & yes this a game that is based out of the USA with for the most part American players. Since the game is on the internet & is subject to rules & regulations based off what other countries allow, there are things AH11 have to watch out for to be permitted to be used in other country's. Why are there no swastikas on the German planes? because they are banned in Germany so if we were to have them Germany would not have AH11 & there for a source of revenue is gone for Hitech.

That would also mean that all bomber formations would be flying safe over enemy feilds because we wouldnt have Snailman (aka Lucshe) to contend with
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Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
« Reply #40 on: August 13, 2008, 06:36:08 AM »
So, what, Waffen SS isn't allowed because some members of the Waffen SS killed jews and performed some atrocities in WWII, but groups of rednecked yahoos stringing up black folk for looking too fondly at a white girl are perfectly fine for a squad name? 

Obviously idiots like you dont know the Arena very well. The Lychmob is a respectable squad with great players/people in it. I wonder what Smokey23 has to say about this?

I hope this thread is locked and you are banned. Dont bring this up here, dont bring it up.



Edit: Next thing you know, my squad's nick name the 'Fight'n Red Devils' is going to be offensive because it refers to the devil. He will probably assume all 16 or 17 of us are devil worshipers.... :rolleyes:
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Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
« Reply #41 on: August 13, 2008, 06:48:48 AM »
Smokey did reply Angel. about 1 page back. From what he said when I spoke to him about it is that this was brought up a looooooong time ago and we thought we had it resolved. To our squad, its not an issue NOR will be an issue until HTC lets us know. We wont change our name just because that 1 in a 1000 guy thinks it has a racist meaning to it. If that were the case, then there would be no squads name because if that were the case, the door would be open and it would never end. Soon theres gonna be some guy in the future saying " why is your squad named after a historical WW2 bomber squadron?..My grandparents were bombed by them and I'm highly offended". The list goes on and on.
I wouldn't get that heated and request someone being banned either for stating their opinion here either..no matter how absurd it may seem, it is THEIR views on things and everyone is never on the same page
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Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
« Reply #42 on: August 13, 2008, 06:51:23 AM »
Yea, but I think this guy is doing it just to be an Arse Hole. Nothing else. It's obvious he hasn't been playing more than a month to be putting this up here.
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Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
« Reply #43 on: August 13, 2008, 07:05:23 AM »
stunninghunk, maybe. I take comfort in knowing that a great percentage of players that post on here have very subjective and intellegent views of things. When someone posts a thread purely for the shock value, it always ends up that they kill themselves out of ingornace.
Does anyone in here actually think the AKs are an all Arabic squad? I dont know..I dont care. All I know is that they are a pain in the arse to fight against and their squad name does nothing to affect the AH community.
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Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
« Reply #44 on: August 13, 2008, 07:07:03 AM »
See Rule #7
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