American Sergeant opinion on Georgian military

[Boroda]

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I have posted it here before, just couldn't find a thread.

While they may dress in uniforms similar to the US, and some of them have US weapons, they aren't even close to US troops. Of the Georgian units I've seen, only the Commandos had any disciple. The regular units had SERIOUS disciple problems. They stole any and everything they could get a hold of, including the radio and antenna mount off of the HMMWV the NCOIC of their MiTT was driving. When confronted, their commander claimed innocence until the NCOIC told them they would get nothing else from the US military until his equipment was returned. So it "magically" appeared that night.

In Kuwait, they were routinely caught steeling from other units, they broke into shipping containers to steel MREs, and uniforms, many of them got caught steeling form the PX, they set several structures on fire because they were smoking in no smoking areas, etc., etc. Until they can get their sh*t together, there's no way in hell they should be allowed into NATO.


As I said, the Commando battalion was very disciplined and well led, but they were still equipped with older soviet era weapons (And they did have quite few female hotties). As for the other units, I wouldn't trust them to run the fry station at McDonalds. Their officers were garbage, and hey had no NCOs to speak of. They seemed more interested in what they could beg, barrow or steal from the US. The only reason many of them were here was because they get a supplement to their pay from the US. Most of the officers seemed to out to fatten their own wallets on the backs of their troops.

They need to make clean sweep of the officer corps, actually form a NCO corps, and enforce discipline in the units (that doesn't mean you beat your soldiers, but lead by example). It's a little hard when your officers treat their troops like peasants. They'll never show them any respect, you can't lead by fear alone.

At a minimum, it'll take them five years to weed out the old guard, and start replacing them with a better trained officer corps. If they start now, it'll take five to ten years before they have a seasoned NCO corps within their enlisted ranks, and these guys will be the backbone of any force they field. Until they do, they need to stay as far away from NATO as possible. From what I've seen, if I were the Russians, I wouldn't be worrying about them starting a war, but I would be checking my pockets to see if I still had my wallet, or if the tires were still on my car in the morning.

[AKIron]

Those Soviet era tendencies die hard.

[Boroda]

Those Soviet era tendencies die hard.

Georgians were one of the most respected nations in USSR, just before they lost their minds and started a civil war in 1990...

I advise you to watch Soldier's Father movie (Otets soldata). Also about Georgian military.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

I'd say that vast majority of non-commissioned officers in the U.S. military are LITERATE, and would know how to SPELL. That quote is from a military photo site. Any PROOF as to the poster actually being who he claims he is?

[Boroda]

I'd say that vast majority of non-commissioned officers in the U.S. military are LITERATE, and would know how to SPELL. That quote is from a military photo site. Any PROOF as to the poster actually being who he claims he is?

I can only advise you to check other posts by that person. Look when it was posted.

Many people here at this board are worse in English spelling, including myself.

BTW, what's the literacy rate in the US now?

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

I can only advise you to check other posts by that person. Look when it was posted.

Many people here at this board are worse in English spelling, including myself.

BTW, what's the literacy rate in the US now?

I don't care how well you spell English, you are not a non-commissioned officer in the U.S. military, it isn't your literacy in English we're discussing.

It's pretty damned high in the military, especially once you get into the NCO ranks and above. In fact, the literacy and education rates in the military are often above the general population.

[mensa180]

I can only advise you to check other posts by that person. Look when it was posted.

Many people here at this board are worse in English spelling, including myself.

BTW, what's the literacy rate in the US now?

"Literacy:
definition: age 15 and over can read and write
total population: 99.4%
male: 99.7%
female: 99.2% (2002 census) " 

Russia.


"Literacy:
definition: age 15 and over can read and write
total population: 99%
male: 99%
female: 99% (2003 est.) "

America.

[Elfie]

LOL Mensa!! 

[mensa180]

Russia and America are similar in their literacy percentages, but one has to take into account that Russia only has a population of 140 million where as we have 301 million.

[mg1942]

Russia and America are similar in their literacy percentages, but one has to take into account that Russia only has a population of 140 million where as we have 301 million.

not to mention 15 million illegals with limited English skills~

[AKIron]

I'd say that vast majority of non-commissioned officers in the U.S. military are LITERATE, and would know how to SPELL. That quote is from a military photo site. Any PROOF as to the poster actually being who he claims he is?

Unless you ask Jon Carrie. 

[angelsandair]

Georgians were one of the most respected nations in USSR, just before they lost their minds and started a civil war in 1990...

I advise you to watch Soldier's Father movie (Otets soldata). Also about Georgian military.

You know what else used to be one of the prettiest places in the USSR? Prypiat was said to be the 'Rose of the Soviet Union'

That is... until...


Russians didn't care about their people then, they dont now.

[Dowding]

hey were actually Ukrainian. Russians and Ukrainians aren't the best of friends.

Boroda - what relevance is the post exactly?

[angelsandair]

Prypiat was the 'symbol' of how good Communism was and of how the USSR cared about it's people.

Soviets didn't care then, Russians dont care now.

He wants to call Americans murderers with fake numbers, well, here is one of the worst atrocities from his group.

[Shamus]

If that had been written by the Sergeant Major of the Army or the Corps I might pay some attention to it.

shamus