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Offline Motherland

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Re: Maybe its just me...
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2008, 06:24:01 PM »
What?!

Your allmighty Georgian americanly-trained glorious troops got kicked by numerically inferior untrained Russian drafted soldiers armed by obsolet AKs not allmighty M4s!!!

Better watch news from Iraq right now. Peacemakers my ass!
Most pictures of the Georgian military I've seen have soldiers using old, obsolete Soviet equipment.

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Re: Maybe its just me...
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2008, 06:26:29 PM »
What?!

Your allmighty Georgian americanly-trained glorious troops got kicked by numerically inferior untrained Russian drafted soldiers armed by obsolet AKs not allmighty M4s!!!

Better watch news from Iraq right now. Peacemakers my ass!

Actually, I have several of those 'obsolet' weapons. Nothing wrong with 'em, if the intent is to make noise, no matter what. Of course, should accuracy also be a requirement, then there could be a few issues...

Kinda like your russian propaganda. Never on target, but there is a great noise...
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Re: Maybe its just me...
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2008, 06:26:59 PM »
Most pictures of the Georgian military I've seen have soldiers using old, obsolete Soviet equipment.

One of the thousands of trophys they left running away from Tskhinval:


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« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2008, 06:33:12 PM »
Georgian operated T72B

BTR80


And, the one of the few pictures I've seen from the conflict, a Georgian with what seems to be an SVD (or some kind of copy or variant of it)




woah pics weren't resized... what's the code for this?
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Re: Maybe its just me...
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2008, 06:35:58 PM »
I can't be the only one here thoroughly enjoying the fact that a 14 year old just put Boroda in his place. :)
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« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2008, 06:41:51 PM »
One of the thousands of trophys they left running away from Tskhinval:

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A few of the better pieces left behind in the snow behind retreating (panicked) Russian Soldiers that attempted to invade Finland... tell us of the Finn's, Boroda... how they threw your commie hero's back 4 times. Villagers, armed with the weapons your troops abandoned in the snow tossing your dreams of a simple conquest into the crapper.

One of the more entertaining moments in soviet history.

http://www.winterwar.com/

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Re: Maybe its just me...
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2008, 06:46:23 PM »
Awesome response to a blatant hijack.  :aok

I can't be the only one who draws a parallel between Russia and that Wizard of Oz scene. "Pay no attention to man behind the green curtain..."
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« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2008, 06:49:27 PM »
I can't be the only one here thoroughly enjoying the fact that a 14 year old just put Boroda in his place. :)
I don't know about that ;) The first two pictures seem rather old, as the personnel are wearing what seems to be, to my forgetful, untrained eyes on this subject, old Soviet camouflage, while in the most recent picture from the South Ossetian conflict the soldiers are wearing what look to be American Woodland BDU's.


@ Hangtime's post;
The Mosin Nagant is such a beautiful rifle... :)

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« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2008, 06:49:55 PM »
Georgian operated T72B
BTR80

And, the one of the few pictures I've seen from the conflict, a Georgian with what seems to be an SVD (or some kind of copy or variant of it)


Georgians have more up-to-date versions of T-72s then our 68th Army. Russians even use T-62s that are over 40 years old, with grid screens.

Who's this guy in obviously Russian winter camo standing back to us on T-72 pic?

Georgian military budget went up 30 times under Saakashvili and reached $1 billion in 2007, but looks like they steal most of it. Did you see how many equipment they simply abandoned in SO? It's on our TV, Ukrainian T-72s and BTRs, Czech self-propelled guns, US truks and humvees. I wonder how many US choppers got shot down by the same drafted 18 year old boys we all saw on TV.

Professional trained georgian army my ass! :D Underfed semi-literate Vietnamese did much better.

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« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2008, 06:56:25 PM »
A few of the better pieces left behind in the snow behind retreating (panicked) Russian Soldiers that attempted to invade Finland... tell us of the Finn's, Boroda... how they threw your commie hero's back 4 times. Villagers, armed with the weapons your troops abandoned in the snow tossing your dreams of a simple conquest into the crapper.

One of the more entertaining moments in soviet history.

http://www.winterwar.com/

Finns are very much aware of the fact that both in 40 and 44 we just got what we want froom them and then left them alone withut any possible way to defend further. In 44 - with amazing efficiency. Probably USSR didn't have to deploy tha much troops against them :D

Maybe it was a good idea to enter Finland with mobile groops in 40, like we did in Georgia this week, just to collect or destroy what was left of their military equipment, in this case they couldn't take part in starving millions in Leningrad one year later.

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« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2008, 07:00:44 PM »

Professionally trained Russian army my ass! :D Underfed semi-literate Afghans did much better.

Fixed.
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« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2008, 07:11:21 PM »
Fixed.

Did they? :D

That's why you guys pay taxes so big. Any moron in White a House can sell you a Brooklyn Bridge.

Get real. All this "liberation and democracy" in fancy uniforms with M4s and george's flags is at your expense and it's not the best invesment, I bet.  :D

I suppose it's better to invest in salt and matches if your best ally is a current Georgian regime :D

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« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2008, 07:29:28 PM »
Are you going to dispute history outright now?  I know you're used to being told what you'll know and like, but please try to separate fact from state-sponsored fiction.

At least you went in for the right reasons this time, peacemakers...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1563317.ece

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/aug/16/georgians-force-to-clean-south-ossetia-streets/

If you're interested in continuing this 'All glory to Mother Russia' discussion, post up a thread so I'm not forced into continuing your hijack of Serenity's topic by confusing you with facts.
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Re: Maybe its just me...
« Reply #28 on: August 17, 2008, 03:47:54 AM »
BOOM HEADSHOT!
BOOM HEADSHOT!

shrecking raghead liberal bananas, oops that fool is still moving. Eat hot cannon leftist terrorist scum!

Cya tomarrow Fred, Later Bill.

wheres my car Im gonna get a pizza otw home.

Sleeping soundly dreaming of some terrorist/commie scum, dance their way to paradise to the tune of 30mm





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Re: Maybe its just me...
« Reply #29 on: August 17, 2008, 04:16:27 AM »
But this is starting to sound rather pathetic.

http://www.military.com/news/article/predator-pilots-suffering-war-stress.html?ESRC=dod.nl

Highlights: Predator pilots are suffering war stress!


Perhaps the most difficult thing for a Soldier to do is to kill.  But in war, in combat it is not an overtly difficult decision to make.  Kill, or be killed, kill or watch my brothers die.  There are ways to rationalize it, there are men who have been and seen and know right there to help you through it.
With remote pilots...  there is no outside stress that forces the mind into basic instincts.  Just the confirmation order to push the button.
That's gotta be tough.

I hope those people get the help they need. :salute