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Re: Warming the globe 1 mile at a time
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2008, 08:29:52 AM »
On a side note..  MY dad showed me two RV's that were pretty much the same and in very good condition that I could get for almost nothing.. both were "bounders"  very large and well equipped.. one he could have for free from a lady he does handyman work for and the other was for sale for $3000 but the guy would take $2000.

If I had a place with some acreage I woulda took em both as guest houses.

They have either big block chevy or big block ford motors in em which I coulda pulled out and used for something good someday.

lazs

Hey Lazs, what's your preference of motor? Chev 454 block or Ford 460?  I have a 460 in my '97 F250 and its very strong. I didn't buy it for the gas mileage as I only put about 2000 miles a year on it, but the thing can pull a house off its foundation...

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Re: Warming the globe 1 mile at a time
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2008, 09:48:25 AM »
Hey Lazs, what's your preference of motor? Chev 454 block or Ford 460?  I have a 460 in my '97 F250 and its very strong. I didn't buy it for the gas mileage as I only put about 2000 miles a year on it, but the thing can pull a house off its foundation...

I KNOW THIS WASN'T DIRECTED AT ME, but........

the 454 chevy is very reliable. it makes pretty good horsepower, depending on the year you're talking about. i don't think it's very torquey though, as far as a big block goes.

 the 460 ford, has always been a torque monster. depending on the year(again) it can make some good horsepower. it, too, is a very relaible engine. it's somewhat easy to work on, but it, along with the 390, has a tendency to burn out the exhaust manifold gaskets.

 still, given the choice, i'd take the 460.

just my 2 cents
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Re: Warming the globe 1 mile at a time
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2008, 10:09:22 AM »
I KNOW THIS WASN'T DIRECTED AT ME, but........

the 454 chevy is very reliable. it makes pretty good horsepower, depending on the year you're talking about. i don't think it's very torquey though, as far as a big block goes.

 the 460 ford, has always been a torque monster. depending on the year(again) it can make some good horsepower. it, too, is a very relaible engine. it's somewhat easy to work on, but it, along with the 390, has a tendency to burn out the exhaust manifold gaskets.

 still, given the choice, i'd take the 460.

just my 2 cents

Cap, you don't know how many motorhomes that I looked at that had a leaky exhaust manifold gaskets on their 460's.  I called my friend, a mechanic, and he said worst case scenario was $500 to replace both sides (tough to get to in those short-nosed F350's) or worst case was a busted bolt (common) and $1500 (including removal of heads, and bolt extraction process).

I've not had that problem with my 460, nor did this motorhome have the problem, but yes indeed, they are notorious for it.

Thanks for your post.

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Re: Warming the globe 1 mile at a time
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2008, 10:09:22 AM »
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One other downside is that now the kids are no longer within "back hand" distance with they're getting out of hand on trips, as they'll be seat belted in too far for me to reach.


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Re: Warming the globe 1 mile at a time
« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2008, 10:12:57 AM »

Don't make me come back there! Honey! Take the wheel!



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heh, well, they are getting older now, and soon will be bigger than me!  :uhoh


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Re: Warming the globe 1 mile at a time
« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2008, 11:43:03 AM »
When they get bigger/stronger than you thats when you will regret making them eat their vegetables all these years.  :uhoh



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Re: Warming the globe 1 mile at a time
« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2008, 12:08:15 PM »
Cap, you don't know how many motorhomes that I looked at that had a leaky exhaust manifold gaskets on their 460's.  I called my friend, a mechanic, and he said worst case scenario was $500 to replace both sides (tough to get to in those short-nosed F350's) or worst case was a busted bolt (common) and $1500 (including removal of heads, and bolt extraction process).

I've not had that problem with my 460, nor did this motorhome have the problem, but yes indeed, they are notorious for it.

Thanks for your post.

well, i've never pulled a head due to one. it's usually one of the rear bolts that breaks.

 i use a 90 degree air drill, and drill it out.....then just re-tap it for a new bolt.

 what i never looked into though(kind of strange too, cause i like to know what causes pattern failures) is why all of the ford FE blocks do this.
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Re: Warming the globe 1 mile at a time
« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2008, 12:16:46 PM »
well, i've never pulled a head due to one. it's usually one of the rear bolts that breaks.

 i use a 90 degree air drill, and drill it out.....then just re-tap it for a new bolt.

 what i never looked into though(kind of strange too, cause i like to know what causes pattern failures) is why all of the ford FE blocks do this.
Dunno. Heat? Poor metal choice for bolts?

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Re: Warming the globe 1 mile at a time
« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2008, 12:23:41 PM »
Dunno. Heat? Poor metal choice for bolts?


metal choice would make more sense,.........i think
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Re: Warming the globe 1 mile at a time
« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2008, 12:27:26 PM »
I just realized that I never told you guys what I actually paid for the RV:

$9500

(He originally wanted $11,200)

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Re: Warming the globe 1 mile at a time
« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2008, 12:28:38 PM »
Binding on the bolts due to the different expansion co-efficients between the head and manifold and Ford not allowing enough play in the through-hole of the manifold so the bolts would not get bound.

The rear is of the head is the hottest so it almost always has the problem.  If you oblong the bolt holes on the rear 4 through holes a little, the problem stops being a problem.

Or replace the cast iron manifolds with headers will also take care of it.
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Re: Warming the globe 1 mile at a time
« Reply #26 on: August 20, 2008, 12:30:07 PM »
Binding on the bolts due to the different expansion co-efficients between the head and manifold and Ford not allowing enough play in the through-hole of the manifold so the bolts would not get bound.

The rear is of the head is the hottest so it almost always has the problem.  If you oblong the bolt holes on the rear 4 through holes a little, the problem stops being a problem.

Or replace the cast iron manifolds with headers will also take care of it.

Damn, sounds like the same problem with the Double Wasp engines they had, with the rear pistons heating up hotter. :)

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Re: Warming the globe 1 mile at a time
« Reply #27 on: August 20, 2008, 03:56:33 PM »
I put my "Ol' Reliable" up for sale today.  :cry I don't have room in my RV garage since the new motor home will take up one half, and the boat and trailer take up the other half.
http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/rvs/804728630.html

Here is the same style truck camper in the RV Heritage Museum in Indiana. (2nd pic from top--this was a 1969, mine is a 1973, last year that Holiday Rambler made a Truck Camper)
http://rv-mh-hall-of-fame.org/museum.html
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Re: Warming the globe 1 mile at a time
« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2008, 06:32:21 PM »
Brought her home and cleaned her up.  :aok

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Re: Warming the globe 1 mile at a time
« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2008, 10:25:34 PM »
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