Mutual Defense Treaty with Poland.......huh?

[john9001]

USAF vs russian armor= russian scrap metal.

[sprattjack]

Vlad's days are numbered.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Russia has announced that they plan to withdraw their military from NATO.

[Swager]

Putin is a putz, but he is not stupid.  He has about 5 or 6 scenarios already scripted out and will react to the actions of the US and NATO.  HE knows he cannot take on NATO head-to-head, plus it does not gain him anything to do that.  Russia can become a global economical power if they play their cards right.  They still have a lot of internal issues and need to fix those before they come out and play with the big boys.  They will push and prod, but they wont be looking for a true adversary to fight. 

Russia military leaders, they remind me of a 16 years old bully in a elementary school playground.

As far a the country Russia is concerned, remember that the actions of a country's government is not necessarily the will of it's people.

Sort of like our country, the United States.

[sprattjack]

Petrol = sovereignty, right?  erm..

[FrodeMk3]

Putin is a putz, but he is not stupid.  He has about 5 or 6 scenarios already scripted out and will react to the actions of the US and NATO.  HE knows he cannot take on NATO head-to-head, plus it does not gain him anything to do that.  Russia can become a global economical power if they play their cards right.  They still have a lot of internal issues and need to fix those before they come out and play with the big boys.  They will push and prod, but they wont be looking for a true adversary to fight. 

Russia military leaders, they remind me of a 16 years old bully in a elementary school playground.

As far a the country Russia is concerned, remember that the actions of a country's government is not necessarily the will of it's people.

Sort of like our country, the United States.

So far, he's been batting 1000. How this country's people will feel about another foreign war, with Iraq/Afghanistan still going on, will be a determining factor in how we respond. Approval ratings' near election time tend to occupy politicians' minds, and Bush (and the republican party) are still reeling from Iraq. McCain has just started to get ahead of Obama in the Polls, although November is still 2-3 months' away, and I would believe that the party would not want to jeopardize McCains' chances if they could possibly help it. IMO, Putin timed this to play on our elections, as well as putting Europe in a cold sweat over their Energy supply (Maybe some of our European friends' can tell us when winter starts' and it get's cold there?)

I would like to see Bush do the right thing (for a change) and back up our Allies. I haven't seen him do much yet.

[68Wooley]

The likelihood is that first significant opposition the Russians would face in an invasion of NATO countries would be the <edit> Bundeswehr - thanks Motherland</edit>.

God help them (the Russians) if that ever happens. A conscript army against the best tanks and best tankers in the world would not be pretty.

[Motherland]

The post-WWII German military is called the Bundeswehr. Means federal defence force IIRC.
Doesn't matter as we all know what you're talking about, just thought I'd point it out.

[68Wooley]

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[Trell]

We should never have asked Poland to let us put the missiles in their country,  Everyone knew this would cause issues with Russia.  Now that we signed we better back them, But it was a bad idea to start it at all...

[Elfie]

We should never have asked Poland to let us put the missiles in their country,  Everyone knew this would cause issues with Russia.  Now that we signed we better back them, But it was a bad idea to start it at all...

Nah......Russia is just blowing smoke over nothing really. Ten ABM missiles would get overwhelmed in an all out Russian nuclear attack. Besides, those missiles in Poland do nothing to protect the US from Russian missiles since any launch towards the US would send the missiles over the North Pole. Russia has missiles that are supposedly capable of evading ABM's anyway.

[Nilsen]

Russia will never attack Poland and thats the end of that. All that will happen is that Russia does what they just now said and will set up a missile shield of their own with Belarus

[yanksfan]

It would take alot to attack Poland. They would have to mass troops and equipment creating a large signature effect that would be quickly spotted. Russia could not hope to invade Poland without air supremicy. Their ground forces would be beaten to a pulp without it.

Georgia was a different situation, russian peace keepers were already in the area and the battle developed over a period of a week or so. An invasion of Poland would have to be an all out assualt to capture as much of Poland as possible b4 NATO could respond. This is just not possible. Any troop build up anywhere near Poland would be counterd b4 an invasion could begin.

[Maniac]

Russia will never attack Poland and thats the end of that.

I agree, they would never dare to enter Poland. The Poles wouldnt be content by only kicking the Russians out. They would be trailing em back all the way to Moscow.

[Trell]

Nah......Russia is just blowing smoke over nothing really. Ten ABM missiles would get overwhelmed in an all out Russian nuclear attack. Besides, those missiles in Poland do nothing to protect the US from Russian missiles since any launch towards the US would send the missiles over the North Pole. Russia has missiles that are supposedly capable of evading ABM's anyway.

Agree that the missiles wont do any harm to Russia,  It is the slow advance of Nato into what they think is their sphere of influence  with us signing defense pacts with every country that is over there but Russia,   It makes the Crazies paranoid

I dont believe that the Missile shield protecting Europe is in our best interest.    They have enough power  Tech and money over there to do it themselves if needed  rather then The US reashiong arross the world and into Russia..