Corporal punishment

[Shamus]

If my kid needs to be smacked, call me and I will take care of it.

If a teacher or a neighbor takes it upon themselves do dish out corporal punishment on my kid they may very well receive some in return.

shamus

[DREDIOCK]

 First you have to know what works on your own kids and when.

Some kids you could beat them till they bled and it couldn't make a bit of difference.
Other kids, and a good swat once in a while is all they understand or can be  the only thing that gets their attention.
Fortunately I have only on rare occasion had to raise a hand to either of my kids. But...they know I'll do it. and that helps.
Along with the fact I am really really good at chewing people out.

Another factor for me I believe is I don't often let things get to the point where I have to to begin with. In short.
Meaning I don't let them go on and on before I say something. I say something the first time....in no uncertain terms.
If I say it twice then I warn them that I wont be warning them a third time.

Finally there is a difference between a swat or two and beating the living daylights out of your kid.
One is discipline. the other ,abuse
And I've told my kids teachers in front of them. "If so and so acts up. Give him/her a kick in the butt."
Usually to the shock of the teacher, and the horror of my kids. So far one is in college  and the other is entering 7th grade and its never had to come to that.

On the other hand my kids know if there is a problem with a teacher at school and the kid is in the right. I'll be behind them 1,000 percent as my sons 10th grade vice principle learned when I predicted the  extreme physical harm that would come to him if he ever tried to search my kid again without him actually having done something wrong to be searched for. ( I believe my actual statement was "I'll come down here and search YOU with all the subtlety of a jackhammer)

But whoa to the child if he/she is in the wrong.  I will also back the teacher 1,000 percent and then some. They know that also

So far, No problems from the children.

When it comes to kids. Im old school
I dont take crap from kids.
Not my own nor anyone elses.
If you kid is on a sleepover at my house I warn the parent. That the kid is more then welcome to stay. But they will be subject to the same treatment I give my own if there is a problem.
But I do let kids..be kids.
I must be doing something right because
To date I havent had a kid yet that was afraid to or didn't want to come back.

Too many kids these days go without discipline or being taught anything about respect. You see it in the way they dress,talk, and act

Old days. If a teacher or neighbor saw you acting up. They were almost as likely to let you have it as your parent.
And if they did you prayed your parent didnt find out or you would get it again when you got home.

These days if you see one of your neighbors kids doing something wrong and say something to them. Your just as likely to be told to F off as be told "Yes Mr so and so. Im sorry."

Course they always act like perfect angels in front of their parents.
And the parent these days aren't any better. Refusing to believe their little Johnny or Janey could possibly be in the wrong.

"Mr Johnson, You might want to know I heard your little 13 year old Johnny cussing like a stable boy in front of old Mrs Crochet."
"Couldnt possibly be my Johnny. My Johnny doesnt cuss."

Ok, yours is the only 13 year old on the planet that doesnt cuss and it must have been the other blond haired Johnny that I saw entering your house 15 minutes later.

Maybe the parents need to be beat instead.

[DREDIOCK]

Most of the kids these days need a good spanking.  I plan on spanking my children when my wife and I have some.  Best thing for teaching the young minds.  Timeout.  What a joke.  A good smack on the rump.  Now people that go off and whale on a kid, that is overboard.  Get a life people and stop being so danged PC.  Crack out the leather belt.  Still cringe when I think about the old man pullin that thing out of the closet.  Did me good.

Timeout- classic example. My neighbors wife was big into that "never spank your kid. give him a timeout and talk to him"
now he was more like me. The punishment should fit the crime.
Not everything deserves a smack. But not everything doesn't either.
She was against it for ANY reason. And him...Well he wasnt always allowed to carry his own balls around with him. just went along

Didn't work worth a damn. Kid was damn near uncontrollable. Even he once said "What ya gonna do, Talk to me?"
One day he took out a carving knife and held it at one of his sisters.

Finally he said enough is enough. "We did it your way NOW we are doing it mine." and gave him a good old fashioned whooping.
That was about 10 years ago and the kid, Now 21 has been a better person ever since.

[kamilyun]

You're missing the point. The majority of todays parents will not give their children a spanking, no matter how well deserved. So they will go with the suspension. Most likely unsupervised because most parents work. There you have it, vacation.

I was just in line at Target.  Kid whining/acting up in front of me.  Mom told him if he behaved he could pick out a candybar.   

[mensa180]

My mom would have said "if you behave I will allow you to live when we get home".

[Elfie]

My mom would have said "if you behave I will allow you to live when we get home".

LOL no doubt.

[DREDIOCK]

My mom would have said "if you behave I will allow you to live when we get home".

Heh,
My mom woulda said "Your asking for it and if you dont stop your going to get it. Now KNOCK  IT OFF"

And if I didnt. She woulda smacked me right there and then.

[mensa180]

It has long been the case in my family that my mother always wanted to hit me, but my father was more of a "time out" person, though he did woop me a couple times when I deserved it.

Most the time my father would save me from that smack in the head in line, and I turned out "alright"

[Elfie]

and I turned out "alright

Are you sure?   


 

[Chalenge]

You put your kids in government schools you deserve a good whooping. Allow the morons teaching at schools to discipline your kids? Hey you put them there!

[DREDIOCK]

You put your kids in government schools you deserve a good whooping. Allow the morons teaching at schools to discipline your kids? Hey you put them there!

No complaints about the government school my kids go to. something like 72% of our graduates go on to a 4 year college.
My son got into rutgers. had his choice of campus's. (He chose the main campus)
No small feat for a school that accepted only the top 6% of High School grads the year he started.

We moved into this town because it had a blue ribbon School system.
If someone decides to move to a town that has less then a good school system. and decides to raise kids there then it is THEY who are the morons. Not the teachers.

As for the morons disciplining my kids.
For something like 7 hours they have/had my kid/s. And be it them or a private school. For that time period they have responsibility over them.
If something is going on and the kids are acting up. It is they who have to be allowed to deal with it in my absence.

Part of the problem isnt that the teachers are morons. Its that we have taken the power away from the teachers to deal with situations as they happen when they happen. And too many parents that do nothing in the way of discipline themselves when something does happen.
Instead they blame the teacher.

[bmwgs]

You put your kids in government schools you deserve a good whooping. Allow the morons teaching at schools to discipline your kids? Hey you put them there!

Was going to respond to this, but changed my mind and erased what I wrote.  No way you can debate with someone so narrow minded.

Fred

[MiloMorai]

Back in the day, learned real early that if I came home and whined that I got the strap at school or a neighbor had slapped the back of my head, I got another from the parents for whining and a second for the original offense. It was the same for my friends.

On school strapping, we took it as a badge of honor that we could take it and were not wimps.

[lazs2]

agree with chalenge..  anyone who puts their kids into government schools deserves to be whipped in the town square.

lazs

[CAP1]

Timeout- classic example. My neighbors wife was big into that "never spank your kid. give him a timeout and talk to him"
now he was more like me. The punishment should fit the crime.
Not everything deserves a smack. But not everything doesn't either.
She was against it for ANY reason. And him...Well he wasnt always allowed to carry his own balls around with him. just went along

Didn't work worth a damn. Kid was damn near uncontrollable. Even he once said "What ya gonna do, Talk to me?"
One day he took out a carving knife and held it at one of his sisters.

Finally he said enough is enough. "We did it your way NOW we are doing it mine." and gave him a good old fashioned whooping.
That was about 10 years ago and the kid, Now 21 has been a better person ever since.

a friend of mine has 3 kids.....they're all uncontrollable, because he was always working, and his wife didn't believe in spanking or hitting.
 his oldest,,,,,,19 now, is living in camden with a kid and girlfriend no job. that one, ended up in a fistfight with his dad(which he lost). did had him up against the wall by his throat, and the kid STILL didn't get it.

 the other kid is 17 now, and is one of those types that mutters things as he walks away after a confrontation. i used to warn my friend that this kid was gonna get in trouble that way.
 at his first real job, he did just that.....one of the mechanics that worked with him just about beat the livin crap out of the kid for that. this was after only 3 weeks on that job.

 the youngest seems ok so far.

 problem is, if they would've been disciplined when they were younger, they would never have gotten to this point. one of them, i think did take a swing at mom once......just once.........dad fixed that.


 beatings bad, spankings ok......when the kids are young. as they get olderm, they won't need them....plus therer'll be other incentives to use.