A Salute to 1wingovr

[mechanic]

Why does it upset you so that the Spitfire is an easy plane to fly?  Just because it is, doesn't mean that you're not any less skilled than anyone else that flies another plane.  It just means it's an easy plane to fly, probably the easiest fighter to fly in the game.  That's not a bad thing but somehow you think it is.  Is it the fact that since the Spitfire is an easy plane to fly that somehow we think you are less skilled for flying it?  Is that what has your panties in a bunch?


ack-ack

My panties are hanging untwisted on the drying rack as i sit and type this naked. I dont fly spitfires, i fly the mosquito. but i dont go round insulting the spitfire or people who fly it just because i have moved onto a more difficult plane to fly. Something most of the 'elite' P38 pilots do all the time. Condescending just because you fly the 38.

  Maaaaaaybe about 6 months ago I did 1 or 2 "sortes" in a spit 14. Other than that the last time I used one was tour 85 when I used a seafire twice.................at least thats according to my score (i can't believe you actually made me look at the score page)

Only been playin since like march '05 but....whatever stuff you have to MAKE UP to put me down go right ahead

so you addressed the spitfire but what about the hurricane bucky, how many sorties have you flown in the hurri 2c?

what about the A6m, what about the hurricane, what about the p51 or the la7 or the 190d or any of the leading aircraft from each country? Why is flying a spitfire easier than flying a zeke or hurricane, its not. Not sure why you think i want to 'put you down', surely you can see that it is you putting down an aircraft i love with your (and many other people's) inaccurate descriptions.

[Bucky73]

I NEVER "fly" an LA or a A6... If you want to look it up you can because I don't care. I occasionally use a hurri2c when trying to bust cap at field and that is the ONLY time i use it in the MA. 

I think you are missing the point here. Again....we are not "putting down"  *cough* YOUR A/C. We are simply saying that in this GAME it is too easy to "fly". It's that simple. If you read what I posted before I believe I said the "spitfire is one of my favorite planes in RL"  RL= REAL LIFE

You can't honestly tell me that the spit is HARD to "fly"   

Come on Man. Sell stupid somewhere else because we are all filled up here.

Take off the flight suit and step away for bit........

[mechanic]

i havnt flown the game in over a month bucky, so you're wrong.

You have flown the hurricane2c more than you say, I remember countless times running into you in your hurri and saluting you, win or lose.

So you are taking this line of 'its a game stop making it serious' yet you seem to think flying a certain a/c is shamefull. 'I have never flown X plane' yadda yadda.

You know what, i've flown them all, i enjoy flying them all. I expect you are the one who really needs to stop taking it too seriously, or at the very least stop ruining other people fun by down grading what they fly. The P51 is the most weenie-fied plane we have, impossible to get killed in a P51 unless you want to, or make a huge mistake. the same cannot be said for any model of the spitfire besides maybe the spit16.

I grow weary of this debate, i dont care enough to reply again.

 

[Ack-Ack]

My panties are hanging untwisted on the drying rack as i sit and type this naked. I dont fly spitfires, i fly the mosquito. but i dont go round insulting the spitfire or people who fly it just because i have moved onto a more difficult plane to fly. Something most of the 'elite' P38 pilots do all the time. Condescending just because you fly the 38.

Because I say the Spitfire is an easy plane to fly, I am being condescending? 


ack-ack

[Yenny]

It's not the plane! It's the pilot that you should worry about. Whenever I'm in D-9. I usually hang around 6-7k at the furball enviroment, but with high SA. I would spot a 10k spitfire coming in before he could choose his target.  That way I know to stop diving on lower targets and point my nose to meet that spitfire head-on. So really it doesn't matter what one fly, it's how they fly the plane that you should worry.

A good pilot with high SA, are almost impossible to be pin against the wall unless he wants to be pinned. They would see a higher incoming threats and react so that they wouldn't put that threat in their tail before the threat know to choose them as target. It's not running, it's facing your biggest threat and make it change its mind on having a chance of having you as its target. I fly D-9 a lot at furball and face a lot of inc spits at 10k while I'm on the deck, but usually I'd face them HO if they decide to jump me. If they don't jump me then I'd keep them in view and know where they are most the time.

In the other hand, If I'm flying a turn and burn plane. I wouldn't have to do the same thing I do in D-9. I would just sucker the higher bandit to dive on me, and if he decides to chop throttle to settle in. That's what I look for and reverse on him. If he's going to make a one speed pass then I'd just keep my eyes on him and continue to engage other targets.

[Steve]

It's not the plane! It's the pilot that you should worry about.

Sorry Yenny, but this is not completely true and you know it. The plane has much to do with a con's threat level and a person's ability to get kills/live.

[Bucky73]

Say what you want about me using the hurri....I've proven you wrong on your "3 year" thing with the spit so I don't feel the need to prove you wrong again by looking over some boring score sheets.

When I play Tiger Woods golf on xbox I'm not Tiger Woods all the time because even when you win it would be satisfying to me. Even though Tiger is the BEST golfer in the world. When I play NHL 08 on xbox against my friends I give them sooo much crap when they use teams like Detroit and Anaheim because they are already known to be REALLY good teams. They don't get all pissy when I give them crap either because they know. So, I guess its hard for me to understand why you think its a bad thing when people make fun of other people who "fly" the spit. I guess you would like us all to say that the spit was a POS that nobody could fly and I can't believe the Brits even made such a lemon? It's so good that getting kills in it are much easier than most of the others. All I'm saying is I like to challenge myself a bit in this game and in my opinion(and the vast MAJORITY) of others feel like the spit is easy.

Believe me...I DON'T take this game serious at all. It's purely entertainment and fantasy. I know what it takes to be a pilot because I am one. 

[Steve]

i  The P51 is the most weenie-fied plane we have, impossible to get killed in a P51 unless you want to, or make a huge mistake.
 

This is just pure crap. What makes a 51 so much better than any other late war ride?
P47M is just as fast, heck the hog -1 is about as fast. K4 is just as fast, D9 is faster and has cannon, LA7 is faster at MA alts. 4 of the 5 out turn it, out climb it, all are more lethal. The one that doesn't out turn it, out rolls it dramatically.

FWIW, I'm not puttin your beloved spit down or anyone who flies it. I think it's a great plane and a lot of fun. It also has a great history, and heck, with those elliptical wings, it's a gorgeous bird.

About the only knock I have is on the spixteen... many pilots use it as a crutch because it is so capable in multiple roles. This is about the pilots though, not the plane itself. Ok OK, I'll admit it, I don't think clipped wing spits are as pretty as the full wing versions.... you got me there.  

[mensa180]

the one who can take off ?

LOL, good point!

[Sonicblu]

LOL What a bunch of overgeneralizations and loss of perspective. The spit is easy to fly for whom? lol again. So what if it is "easy to fly" what does that mean anyway? lol again. To have an honest conversation you need to qualify some of your perspectives. Give a noob a spit16 and if he doesn't know acm he is dead just about every time or if he doesn't know how to control E. The only way to get a kill in a spit16 if your new is to get lucky. They don't fly themselves. It comes down to the pilot and experience. After you have more experience and understand some ACM's yes it is an easier plane to fly in some aspects.

1. Easier to fly than what specifically?
2. If it is easier to fly does it matter if it has a noskill pilot at the controls?
3. There are some things that might make it a better fighter it has to do more with the overall performance and gun package than it is easy to fly.

Humm this is why everyone jumps in and flys the spit 1 or V because they are easy to fly.

[uberslet]

when i can get online im always in the DA, maybe soon you'll all come find me. Funny though, all you P38 jocks who are saying 'no idea who he is'...well....how can i put this...thats because he is part of the DA community and none of you are. Thats not a critisism, just a fact.

 

wen i go to furball island all i see is easy kills, little or no sa. im not saying im uber and the pilots in the da are noobs, but im saying thats what i usually see. i occaisionally find a good fight here or ther in the furball arena, but i find it less than i dont  . The thing with the spitfires is, as many people have said, they are easy.  id much rather fly a 38 over a spit just for the amount of skill it takes to fly well. the spitfire, whilst it takes skill, its nothing vs the skill for a p38. hell, id even take a hog or p40 over a spit for the same reason, takes more skill to fly a hog or p40 well than it does to fly the spitfires well.

[Bear76]

LOL What a bunch of overgeneralizations and loss of perspective. The spit is easy to fly for whom? lol again. So what if it is "easy to fly" what does that mean anyway? lol again. To have an honest conversation you need to qualify some of your perspectives. Give a noob a spit16 and if he doesn't know acm he is dead just about every time or if he doesn't know how to control E. The only way to get a kill in a spit16 if your new is to get lucky. They don't fly themselves. It comes down to the pilot and experience. After you have more experience and understand some ACM's yes it is an easier plane to fly in some aspects.

1. Easier to fly than what specifically?
2. If it is easier to fly does it matter if it has a noskill pilot at the controls?
3. There are some things that might make it a better fighter it has to do more with the overall performance and gun package than it is easy to fly.

Humm this is why everyone jumps in and flys the spit 1 or V because they are easy to fly.

Hmm a spit driver no doubt 

[uberslet]

Hmm a spit driver no doubt 

couldnt agree more....sad but true!

[mechanic]

right well im dragged back in again, agh well..


Let me explain it for you simply. In a spitfire a player can make the challenge his opponents. If you want to make a tough fight in your spitfire, go start a 3 on 1.  A 3 on 1 is something your average P51 or P38 driver will run away from, where as the average spitfire will stick it out and die fighting.


The RV-8 is simple to fly, doing a normal landing would not excite me, but flying upside down through fighter hangers is more challenging.

People who are old and slow and have poor reactions wouldnt be able to handle a 3 on 1 no matter what plane you give them, but some of us young ones get our thrills by flying into a bad situation and winning it. winning a 3 on 1 in a spitfire is much harder than winning a 1 on 1 in your 'macho man' plane.

People who claim the spit is too easy are just sheep following the crowd. Some people fly her and love her and do amazing things with her, ACMs that most of the anti-spit pilots here wouldnt be able to do in any plane.

[uberslet]

right well im dragged back in again, agh well..


Let me explain it for you simply. In a spitfire a player can make the challenge his opponents. If you want to make a tough fight in your spitfire, go start a 3 on 1.  A 3 on 1 is something your average P51 or P38 driver will run away from, where as the average spitfire will stick it out and die fighting.


The RV-8 is simple to fly, doing a normal landing would not excite me, but flying upside down through fighter hangers is more challenging.

People who are old and slow and have poor reactions wouldnt be able to handle a 3 on 1 no matter what plane you give them, but some of us young ones get our thrills by flying into a bad situation and winning it. winning a 3 on 1 in a spitfire is much harder than winning a 1 on 1 in your 'macho man' plane.

People who claim the spit is too easy are just sheep following the crowd. Some people fly her and love her and do amazing things with her, ACMs that most of the anti-spit pilots here wouldnt be able to do in any plane.

i know people in this game, who arnt "young" and im not mentioning any names, they fly into 3-1's and kick donut just for the fun of it in they hogs. but id still stay with my p38 or soemthin other than a spit....