Air Disaster in Spain

[Chalenge]

Does anyone have any new information other then 'an engine caught fire and the plane disintegrated?' For some reason this one seemed really suspicious to me. In our local paper the 2004 Islamic terrorist attack there was mentioned four times in that one article about the accident.

[Sandman]

Use the Google.

[mg1942]

In our local paper the 2004 Islamic terrorist attack there was mentioned four times in that one article about the accident.

Did they also mention the fact that they use MD-80?  The plane that produces too much incidents, second only to DC-10.

[Fishu]

Did they also mention the fact that they use MD-80?  The plane that produces too much incidents on the news, second only to DC-10.

Incidentally MD-80 is also very numerous aircraft. You could say the same of B737, which is also experiencing accidents every now and then due to it's popularity. I don't think DC-10 is used for passenger flights anymore - even it's predecessor, MD-11 is being phased out to freighter duty. Maybe you're putting together MD-11 and DC-10 accidents, both of those look quite similar to each other.

IIRC this Spanair's MD-80 was made in 1993, or close to that. Rather new airframe for an MD-80.

[Chalenge]

MD-82 if thats a difference that means anything. I went through more then a dozen sites and same general media 'plane accident' report. Media people dont know about planes very much I was just hoping one of our resident afficionados would maybe relate something they noticed.

[MORAY37]

Did they also mention the fact that they use MD-80?  The plane that produces too much incidents, second only to DC-10.

You may wish to ground your ideology in fact someday.  The MD-80 is currently the 2nd safest airliner (9 hull losses in 20 million flights) in the world, behind the SAAB 340.

 

Model Rate Events No. Flights Rank
    
Aerospatiale Concorde 12.5 1 0.08 Million 19
Airbus A300 1.13 9 8.0 Million 12
Airbus A310 1.85 5 2.7 Million 13
Airbus A319/320/321 0.67 4 6.0 Million 7
Boeing 727 0.66 46 70.0 Million 6
Boeing 737 0.62 47 76.0 Million 5
Boeing 747 1.62 24 14.8 Million 14
Boeing 757 0.56 4 7.2 Million 4
Boeing 767 0.46 3 6.5 Million 3
British Aerospace BAe 146 0.89 4 4.5 Million 10
Embraer 110 Bandeirante 3.73 28 7.5 Million 17
Embraer 120 Brasilia 0.71 5 7.0 Million 8
Fokker F-28 2.35 20 8.5 Million 16
Fokker F-70/F-100 0.67 3 4.5 Million 7
Lockheed L-1011 Tristar 0.91 5 5.5 Million 11
McDonnell Douglas DC-9 0.76 42 55.5 Million 9
McDonnell Douglas DC-10 1.97 15 7.6 Million 15
McDonnell Douglas MD-80 0.45 9 20 Million 2
McDonnell Douglas MD-11 5.71 4 0.7 Million 18
Saab 340 0.33 3 9.0 Million 1
 

[CyranoAH]

As what's to be expected from the first reports, it turns out no engine was on fire. It looks like the plane wasn't producing enough lift/thrust and ate most of the runway before leaving the ground.

It's too soon to know what happened.

Daniel

[ghi]

I heard about tragedy on news last evening,  but was also an interesting comment: there are over 80,000 commercial flights daily around the world, and would have to be  200 passenger airliner crashing every day for the whole year to kill as many people that we do on our roads every year, so  flying is safer as you are most likely to get killed on the way to the airport.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

The plane had a history of several technical problems prior to accident. They had to abort the first takeoff due to engine trouble and crashed on the second attempt after an on-site fix.

Spanair pilots threatened to strike just an hour before the accident. Apparently due to unsafe working conditions.

[CyranoAH]

As I said before, don't take too seriously these informations. This particular airplane had been overhauled in January, and the reason they went back to the apron was a faulty air temperature sensor, which was isolated and the pilots followed standar procedures.

Journalists looking for someone to blame in a hurry are not the most reliable source of information.

Daniel