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Next FSO: The Dogs of War - Belgorod Kharkov 1943
« on: August 22, 2008, 08:50:43 PM »
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Link:

http://ahevents.org/european-theatre/the-dogs-of-war-belgorod-kharkov-1943.html

Writeup and details:

Operation "Polkovodets Rumyantsev" (literally: "Commander Rumyantsev", after 18th century Field Marshal Peter Rumyantsev), was a military operation conducted by the Red Army in its fight against the German Wehrmacht during World War II. The operation was conducted in the Belgorod sector, in the aftermath of the decisive armored clash at Kursk in July of 1943.   

The operation began in early August 1943 and was aimed at following up the defensive success against Field Marshal Von Manstein's Army Group South. It was immediately successful, pushing back the German defenders and liberating the cities of Belgorod and Kharkov. By the early afternoon of August 23, 1943 the Soviet divisions of General Vatutin's Voronezh Front and General Malinovsky's South West Front had successfully liberated Kharkov from German forces, annihilating most of the defenders. It was the last time that the city of Kharkov changed hands during what the Soviets called "The Great Patriotic War". The operation led to the retreat of the German forces in the Ukraine behind the Dnepr river, and it set the stage for the liberation of the city of Kiev in the autumn of 1943.

At this stage of the war the VVS were being equipped with more advanced types like the domestically produced LA-5FN and the later models of the lend-lease US built P-39 Airacobra. This event will recreate the air action that took place between the opposing forces of the strengthening Soviet Fighter Regiments and the Luftwaffe's veteran JagdGruppen on the Eastern Front. 

Country Percentages:

Axis 45%
Allied 55%

Field Assignments:

Axis Bishop
Allied Knight
CM Rook
 
OOB:
 
Allied (Soviet VVS):

LA-5FN (max 48)
P-39Q (max 48)
P-39D
Yak-9T (min 24)
IL-2 Sturmovik (min 24)
B-25C "glass nose" (min 12 *players*) with formations optional.
Boston III (min 12 *players*) with formations optional. 
 
Axis (Luftwaffe):

Bf 109G-6 (max 48)
Bf 109G-2
Fw 190A-5 (max 36)
Bf 110G-2 (min 24)
Ju-87D Stuka (min 24)
Ju-88A-4 (min 12 *players*) with formations optional.
 
Rules and Restrictions:

All aircraft types must be used in all three frames with a minimum of 12 players per type unless otherwise stated. Bomber formations are enabled and CiCs should note they cannot be rearmed on a pad if used with formations (Aces High game restriction). The B-25C version must be the "glass nosed" bomber varient only. All normal FSO rules apply.
 
Scoring:

Aircraft Pts
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Twin engined bombers: 5 pts
All other aircraft: 2 pts

Ground Target Pts
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Small Field: 195
Medium Field: 266
Large Field: 384
VBase: 149
Ammo Factory: 275
Fuel Factory: 246
Radar Factory: 275
AAA Factory: 250
Grunt Factory: 200
City: 372
Headquarters: 544
Truck: 0.781
Train: 1.562

Arena Settings:

- Hungary Map
- Fuel burn 1.0
- Icons short (3k)
- 0.3 Ack
- Fighter and Bomber warning range 42,000 (about 8 miles)
- Tower range set to 42,000 (for display only to match the above setting)
- Haze/fog full visability (17 miles)
- Radar off
- Enemy Collisions On
- Friendly collisions off
- Killshooter off
- Time: 15:00 ( 3PM ) Game Clock
- Formations: On
- Bomber calibration: Auto ( MA style )

- Wind: 0-2K   NO WIND
        2-10K  NW TO SE - Speed 5
        10-18K NW TO SE - Speed 5
        18-24K W TO E - Speed 10
        24k+ - Speed 50 downdraft (Alt limiter) 
 
Designer's Notes:

The B-25, Boston (A-20), and P-39 were delivered as Lend-Lease a/c in large #s to the Soviets in WW2 and were popular a/c with them. 

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http://ahevents.org/fso-related/fso-rules.html

Design by Warloc
 



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Re: Next FSO: The Dogs of War - Belgorod Kharkov 1943
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2008, 08:52:56 PM »
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!

Warloc, kudo's for contributing the time and effort for this! Been waiting for a eastern front FSO like this!

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Re: Next FSO: The Dogs of War - Belgorod Kharkov 1943
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2008, 09:41:55 PM »
I LOOOOOOVE EASTERN FRONT SCENARIOS! :rock

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Re: Next FSO: The Dogs of War - Belgorod Kharkov 1943
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2008, 12:17:57 AM »
Can't there be tank fights too? :pray
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Re: Next FSO: The Dogs of War - Belgorod Kharkov 1943
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2008, 01:47:27 AM »
Here is a nice change a pace.  WELL DONE!

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Re: Next FSO: The Dogs of War - Belgorod Kharkov 1943
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2008, 01:55:39 AM »
Can't there be tank fights too? :pray
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Re: Next FSO: The Dogs of War - Belgorod Kharkov 1943
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2008, 10:42:15 AM »
No second life for Ju-87 Dukas.....er Stukas? Oversite or intentional?
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Re: Next FSO: The Dogs of War - Belgorod Kharkov 1943
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2008, 11:12:43 AM »
A tank battle somewhere, does seem to have been fitting.

Wasn't that what the air war on that front was really about. Close Air Support vs Air Superiority. Rather than the attacking and defending of fixed targets.
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Re: Next FSO: The Dogs of War - Belgorod Kharkov 1943
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2008, 12:16:32 PM »
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Arena Settings:

- Hungary Map
- Fuel burn 1.0
- Icons short (3k)
- 0.3 Ack
- Fighter and Bomber warning range 42,000 (about 8 miles)
- Tower range set to 42,000 (for display only to match the above setting)
- Haze/fog full visability (17 miles)
- Radar off
- Enemy Collisions On
- Friendly collisions off
- Killshooter off
- Time: 15:00 ( 3PM ) Game Clock
- Formations: On
- Bomber calibration: Auto ( MA style )

I have never seen that map and it's not downloadable from the HTC website.

P.S.  We've seriously got to consider tanks for this scenario.  I mean, an Ost front battle without tanks? :huh
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Re: Next FSO: The Dogs of War - Belgorod Kharkov 1943
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2008, 12:58:54 PM »
Hans Ulrich Rudel, the most decorated Luftwaffe pilot,with over 500 tank kills as well as innumerable ground targets destroyed, was a major player in this scenario. The Russians had a very high price on his head. Though he was taken down 30+ times by AA, the Soviet Air Force was never able to shoot him down. To make things even more interesting, might one Stuka pilot be picked to be Rudel as an added bonus? Looking forward to this operation! :aok
« Last Edit: August 23, 2008, 01:01:35 PM by 123zzz »
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Re: Next FSO: The Dogs of War - Belgorod Kharkov 1943
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2008, 01:10:40 PM »
I assume the Hungary map is something fresh and new. This is good because this'll open up a lot of snapshots!
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Re: Next FSO: The Dogs of War - Belgorod Kharkov 1943
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2008, 01:23:55 PM »
Hans Ulrich Rudel, the most decorated Luftwaffe pilot,with over 500 tank kills as well as innumerable ground targets destroyed, was a major player in this scenario. The Russians had a very high price on his head. Though he was taken down 30+ times by AA, the Soviet Air Force was never able to shoot him down. To make things even more interesting, might one Stuka pilot be picked to be Rudel as an added bonus? Looking forward to this operation! :aok
At this time Rudel would have been flying a JU-87G.  <Cough> Yet another axis aircraft we don't have. :P
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Re: Next FSO: The Dogs of War - Belgorod Kharkov 1943
« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2008, 01:33:11 PM »
Rudel was flying the Ju87G with the flak cannons loaded with armor piercing shells. Would be nice......
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Re: Next FSO: The Dogs of War - Belgorod Kharkov 1943
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2008, 01:33:37 PM »
A Pe-2, Yak 1 and 7 would be nice for this scenario as well.

Rudel was flying the Ju87G with the flak cannons loaded with armor piercing shells. Would be nice......
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Re: Next FSO: The Dogs of War - Belgorod Kharkov 1943
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2008, 05:48:14 PM »
Just going to quickly address a few questions here, from the designer:

The Hungary map is an older map that has been redone, I beleive it was 1st used in a Scenario a few years ago. Im sure it will be in the downloads area at some point, and the CiCs will have a map to send out to each side after they get the orders done. It has been tested offline and in the SEA and seems ok.

GVs, in this setup. It was a design decision not to include them this time around. Not every FSO is going to have them. Part of the reason is this is my 1st design in a few years, and I wanted to do something a bit more straight forward. I will consider adding GVs into future setups. I hope this wont dampen anybodys enthusiasm too much, I know a few players do like GV stuff.

2nd lives. None in this setup, they seem to play havoc in some frames, and I wanted to avoid that too. The Stukas and IL-2s only make up @ 10 percent of each sides setup (24 each), so its not like they are an overly large contingent. Even if you are tasked with flying them, you will only have to one of the three frames.

Hope that answers the points raised, there were a lot of design elements (a/c types, ratios, rules, ect) that were debated over at length, over many hours, before being finalised.

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