Author Topic: To the guys always asking for "X" US plane to be upgraded next...  (Read 1155 times)

Offline Karnak

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23048
Yes, most of us are Americans here.  Many US aircraft were great in reality and are great fun in AH, some are on my favorites list, the P-38G and F4U-1A in my case.  Despite that, WWII was a huge, multi-national war and many other nations also provided many great aircraft that are also great fun.  In that light, I am going to post a list of units in the game and the percentages that are AH2 standard.  For the B-24J and Ki-84-Ia I will count them as half upgraded as they were first goes and in many ways it really shows, the Ki-84's interior cockpit framing looks worse than many AH1 standard models for example.  The T-34/76 looks a lot better so will count as fully AH2 standard.  I am not going to list individual marks of an airframe as doing one makes it mostly done for the other versions:

United States:

A-20
B-17 (AH2)
B-24 (half AH2)
B-25s (AH2)
B-26
C-47
F4Fs
F4Us (AH2)
F6F (AH2)
Jeep (AH2)
LVTs
M-3
M4 Sherman (AH2)
M-8
M-16
P-38s (AH2)
P-39s (AH2)
P-40s
P-47s (AH2)
P-51s (AH2)
PT-Boat
SBD
TBM

Percentage of distinct units upgraded: 46%

Germany:

Ar234
Bf109s (AH2)
Bf110s
Fw190s (AH2)
Ju87
Ju88
Me163
Me262 (AH2)
Ostwind (AH2)
Panzer IV H
SdKfz (AH2)
Tiger
Whirbelwind (AH2)


Percentage of distinct units upgraded: 46%

United Kingdom:

Boston
Hurricanes
Lancaster
Mosquito
Spitfires (AH2)
Typhoon
Tempest

Percentage of distinct units upgraded: 14%

Russia:

Il-2
Las (Ah2)
T-34s (AH2)
Yaks

Percentage of distinct units upgraded: 50%

Japan:

A6Ms
B5N
D3A
Ki-61
Ki-67
Ki-84 (half AH2)
N1K2 (AH2)

Percentage of distinct units upgraded: 21%

Italy:

C.20s


Percentage of distinct units upgraded: 0%



Comments:

Germany and the US are both looking good and coming along.  Russia's percentage looks good because the Russian set is so disproportionately small that having two AH2 standard lines gives it 50% upgraded status.  Japan, the UK and Italy all are lagging behind the US and Germany.
Petals floating by,
      Drift through my woman's hand,
             As she remembers me-

Offline BaldEagl

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 10791
Re: To the guys always asking for "X" US plane to be upgraded next...
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2008, 12:39:17 PM »
I would think they should just go with the most used aircraft in the arenas first.  That would make the most people the happiest the soonest.
I edit a lot of my posts.  Get used to it.

Offline Karnak

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23048
Re: To the guys always asking for "X" US plane to be upgraded next...
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2008, 12:41:53 PM »
I would think they should just go with the most used aircraft in the arenas first.  That would make the most people the happiest the soonest.
I have no problem with that method.  It is one reason I was happy to see the La-7 get upgraded and now the N1K2-J even though I am not personally fond of either aircraft.
Petals floating by,
      Drift through my woman's hand,
             As she remembers me-

Offline pxdig

  • Copper Member
  • **
  • Posts: 166
Re: To the guys always asking for "X" US plane to be upgraded next...
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2008, 12:46:52 PM »
Karnak,

Be careful or USRANGER will start posting that ONLY the US planes should be upgraded because they are the only ones that matter, since anything/everyone outside the US is inferior and stinks !! 

 :noid

Offline Karnak

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23048
Re: To the guys always asking for "X" US plane to be upgraded next...
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2008, 12:55:26 PM »
Karnak,

Be careful or USRANGER will start posting that ONLY the US planes should be upgraded because they are the only ones that matter, since anything/everyone outside the US is inferior and stinks !! 

 :noid
Well, only an idiot believes in such a simple, black and white world.  I don't worry much about the opinion of idiots.
Petals floating by,
      Drift through my woman's hand,
             As she remembers me-

Offline trotter

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 817
Re: To the guys always asking for "X" US plane to be upgraded next...
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2008, 01:23:35 PM »
It's always stunning to see visually how fewer planes the Russian planeset has than the other national planesets. Especially considering how large of a role the Russian planes (earlier Yaks, MiG-3's, etc) had during the war.

Does HTC think these planes will be hanger queens? I think they underestimate the interest our playerbase has in Russian planes. Look at the success that the early IL-2 games in the series have had. I know to me personally there is no more compelling matchup than 109's or 190's against anything Russian. Feels far more authentic to me than any overplayed Western ETO matchup.

Sorry for going slightly off topic [/hijack off]

Offline Karnak

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23048
Re: To the guys always asking for "X" US plane to be upgraded next...
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2008, 01:56:15 PM »
We do need more Russian aircraft, but the MiG-3 is not high on the list.  I don't know why people focus on it so much.  It was a low production, unsuccessful aircraft that did not play a large role.  I'll not cry about it if it is added, but I don't see why it gets so much attention.
Petals floating by,
      Drift through my woman's hand,
             As she remembers me-

Offline Motherland

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8110
Re: To the guys always asking for "X" US plane to be upgraded next...
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2008, 02:00:37 PM »
We do need more Russian aircraft, but the MiG-3 is not high on the list.  I don't know why people focus on it so much.  It was a low production, unsuccessful aircraft that did not play a large role.  I'll not cry about it if it is added, but I don't see why it gets so much attention.
It's hot. The definition of what a Russian aircraft should look like.

Offline Anaxogoras

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7072
Re: To the guys always asking for "X" US plane to be upgraded next...
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2008, 02:26:40 PM »
I'd rather see new aircraft before time is spent updating the looks of the old ones.
gavagai
334th FS


RPS for Aces High!

Offline Karnak

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23048
Re: To the guys always asking for "X" US plane to be upgraded next...
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2008, 02:27:41 PM »
It's hot. The definition of what a Russian aircraft should look like.
Why?  It is the only Russian aircraft that looks at all like a MiG-3.  Why is it what they should look like?  It hardly saw use compared to things like the I-16, Yaks or La-5/7s.
Petals floating by,
      Drift through my woman's hand,
             As she remembers me-

Offline Motherland

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8110
Re: To the guys always asking for "X" US plane to be upgraded next...
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2008, 02:30:35 PM »
I should have said... according to most people I've talked to, the MiG3 is the most aesthetically pleasing fighter of the Soviet set.
When I think of a generic Soviet fighter aircraft, I think of the MiG3, despite its relatively small production numbers... it just 'looks Russian' IMO.

Offline Karnak

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23048
Re: To the guys always asking for "X" US plane to be upgraded next...
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2008, 02:54:52 PM »
Gotcha.
Petals floating by,
      Drift through my woman's hand,
             As she remembers me-

Offline 1pLUs44

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3332
Re: To the guys always asking for "X" US plane to be upgraded next...
« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2008, 03:06:02 PM »
I think the M4 Sherman we have should go under Britan. As the Firefly was a british tank.
No one knows what the future may bring.

Offline BaDkaRmA158Th

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2542
Re: To the guys always asking for "X" US plane to be upgraded next...
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2008, 03:22:53 PM »
Wasnt the mig and lagg's stopgap production models between the early I-16's and later yak & la-'s?

Basicly, they sucked,but were better than the il-16 in many respect, but nothing compared to 44-45 aircraft.
~383Rd RTC/CH BW/AG~
BaDfaRmA

My signature says "Our commitment to diplomacy will never inhibit our willingness to kick a$s."

Offline Masherbrum

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 22416
Re: To the guys always asking for "X" US plane to be upgraded next...
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2008, 03:28:59 PM »
We need the I.A.R. 81c
FSO Squad 412th FNVG
http://worldfamousfridaynighters.com/
Co-Founder of DFC