To the guys always asking for "X" US plane to be upgraded next...

[Motherland]

Wasnt the mig and lagg's stopgap production models between the early I-16's and later yak & la-'s?

Basicly, they sucked,but were better than the il-16 in many respect, but nothing compared to 44-45 aircraft.

Not really... The I16, Yakovlev 1, the MiG3, and the LaGG3 were all in service at the time of Barbarossa... the Yakovlev 1 and LaGG 3 both continued to be developed (the Yakovlev into the 7, 9 and eventually the 3, and the LaGG of course into the La5 & 7), so I wouldn't really call them 'stopgap' models.

[Karnak]

I think the M4 Sherman we have should go under Britan. As the Firefly was a british tank.

I listed it where HTC lits it in their model list.

[Rino]

     Ever think that maybe reliable USSR plane data may be difficult to find?
Would be problematical to add new birds without good data.

[Anaxogoras]

     Ever think that maybe reliable USSR plane data may be difficult to find?
Would be problematical to add new birds without good data.

Too true.

[Spikes]

T34/76 got updated?

[Yossarian]

I need the A-26. 

[Karnak]

T34/76 got updated?

T-34/76 was one of the first three units to be added at AH2 standards.  The other two were the Ki-84 and B-24J.  The T-34/76 looks good, but the Ki-84 and B-24J both have issues that need to be fixed before they are really full AH2 looks.


Yossarian,

No, you don't.  You are confusing need for want.  And it will be a perk plane anyways.

[USRanger]

Posted bt pxdig:
Karnak,

Be careful or USRANGER will start posting that ONLY the US planes should be upgraded because they are the only ones that matter, since anything/everyone outside the US is inferior and stinks !!

And where the hell did that come from?  Do I even know you?  I think not. We could meet in the DA to discuss it anytime if you wish.

[Yossarian]

T-34/76 was one of the first three units to be added at AH2 standards.  The other two were the Ki-84 and B-24J.  The T-34/76 looks good, but the Ki-84 and B-24J both have issues that need to be fixed before they are really full AH2 looks.


Yossarian,

No, you don't.  You are confusing need for want.  And it will be a perk plane anyways.

Fine, you're right.  But I still really, really want it.


And at anyone who's calling USRanger an idiot, you should look at the "Offline Missions" section of the BBS before you do so.  You have to scroll down a bit to find it.  Perhaps after that you're rethink your judgement.

[-aper-]

We do need more Russian aircraft, but the MiG-3 is not high on the list.  I don't know why people focus on it so much.  It was a low production, unsuccessful aircraft that did not play a large role.  I'll not cry about it if it is added, but I don't see why it gets so much attention.

It's a kind of myth:

1) "It was a low production" - actually it was not  - 3,172 were built
2) "unsuccessful aircraft" - It was 1941 - the most unsuccessfull year for VVS. Still, some soviet pilots were successfull in some aircrafts. For example Pokryshkin was successfull flying MiG-3 in 1941.
3) "did not play a large role" - in 1941 MiG-3 played much more important role compared to Yak-1 or LaGG-3 (was delivered in greater numbers).

Here is a nice video of restored MiG-3 flying on the MAKS 2007 airshow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJQ2MsrWaRw

[mg1942]

     Ever think that maybe reliable USSR plane data may be difficult to find?
Would be problematical to add new birds without good data.

There's plenty of reliable sources... or else there would be no IL-2 simulator series.

[Motherland]

It's a kind of myth:

1) "It was a low production" - actually it was not  - 3,172 were built

Are you aware of how many Yak's were built?

[pxdig]

Fine, you're right.  But I still really, really want it.


And at anyone who's calling USRanger an idiot, you should look at the "Offline Missions" section of the BBS before you do so.  You have to scroll down a bit to find it.  Perhaps after that you're rethink your judgement.

You think so?  in his post he says he doesnt know me right? well he sends me a PM calling me a "maskin retard".  What would you call a person that immedately throws racial insults over something as silly as this?  BTW, I am not the guy who called him an idiot, but I would be hard press to argue against that label.  Dont believe me, see his actual PM below....


USRANGER wrote:
"If you have a problem with me then bring it to the DA you stud so I can school your wench ass.  At least you'll have something new to cry about ya maskin retard."

[Anaxogoras]

There's plenty of reliable sources... or else there would be no IL-2 simulator series.

[-aper-]

Are you aware of how many Yak's were built?

In 1941 Aircraft factory #292 produced 1,212 Yak-1.