Generation Kill

[Grayeagle]

Best line tonite .. at the end of the show when credits are rollin ..

'..defendin the right to say what you want, we got the right to punch you in the mouth if we dont like it'

'On the 7th day God rested, the Marines had his perimeter, been that way ever since.'

Semper Fi.

-GE aka Frank (ex-USAF, never met a Marine I didn't like)

[Rich46yo]

Im ex-USAF too. Also spent 18 months in a region of an Islamic country that was under Martial Law and constant anarchy during my time there. Terrorism all the time. We had 3 SGTs gunned down in the capitol once by insurgents with automatic weapons. A guy I played ball with married a local Muslim girl and lived off base with her. One night he came home with a buddy and a bunch of fundementalists were waiting in his APT for him. They thru the both of them off a 4th floor balcony. My friend lived cause he landed on a car but the other guy died.

This was circa 1970s mind you. In case you think we ever "fit in" over there. Eventualy the Military Government solved its domestic problems by killing and imprisoning all the troublemakers. Its a concept that really works actually.

But thats what this series reminded me of, the memories it brought back. That we just dont belong in places like that. In Islam I mean. Its just a very foreign way of life for us and our presence just fuels the anti-Americanism their own so called Governments dope up their own people with to deflect their own inability to meet domestic needs.

Thats why I laugh my arse off when I hear the fat, spoiled children of Democracy call their own Police "Gestapo" or other such nonsense. Really, I laugh. Over there the Police will shoot you just for running from them, for any reason. Ever notice the lack of track and field talent from Islamic countries? The level of brutality and authoritive excess really has to be seen to be believed.

[sprattjack]

wth is a/an APT?


I've conformed, and love the series. 

[Vulcan]

This was circa 1970s mind you. In case you think we ever "fit in" over there. Eventualy the Military Government solved its domestic problems by killing and imprisoning all the troublemakers. Its a concept that really works actually.

I'm curious which country was this?

[trax1]

wth is a/an APT?


I've conformed, and love the series. 

I believe that would be an apartment, APT is the common shortening for it.

[Rich46yo]

I'm curious which country was this?

Turkey. http://www.allaboutturkey.com/darbe.htm

The armed forces were also affected by these developments. Martial law, imposed in December 1978 in thirteen of Turkey's sixty-seven provinces (nowadays eighty-one), was extended a year later to nineteen provinces, and by September 1980 was in effect in twenty. While targets for extremist violence were generally police officials, judges, and prominent politicians, in the six months prior to the coup, members of the armed forces also became subject to a number of attacks. By early September 1980 it was estimated that approximately 25 percent of the 475,000-man army was involved in maintaining civil order, a role not
welcomed by the High Command.

Actually my memory fades. Maybe it was Izmir and not all of them died but I do remember 3 were shot. We had so much terrorism I cant really remember it all. I found 2 interesting sights that are a reminder of the region during my time there. http://www.prophetofdoom.net/Islamic_Terrorism_Timeline_1978.Islam http://www.prophetofdoom.net/Islamic_Terrorism_Timeline_1979.Islam

And thats just the Muslims. The Kurds were even worse and we also had the Armenians, the communists, and the spoiled little Euro-Mao wannabees. I think it was the Red Brigade that always was blowing up NATO bases. Even some of the western NATO countries were suckholes for the terrorists. Italy most of all. Remember when they sheilded the scumbags that threw the little Jewish American guy in the wheelchair into the ocean? Yaknow the only Euro's I would trust is the Brits. And maybe, maybe the Germans.

Its funny but when I tell people this war has been going on since even before I wore a uniform they look at me like Im nuts. What this is is a 40+ year old war between civilizations. We are never going to fit in over there. Never!

[sprattjack]

I believe that would be an apartment, APT is the common shortening for it.

ahh, the shortening.

[rpm]

I loved this series! The final episode was better than I expected. There's a reason the QB wears a facemask.

[1pLUs44]

I loved this series! The final episode was better than I expected. There's a reason the QB wears a facemask.

The end confused me because I hadn't seen the whole episode. I only caught the last 5 min. Care to enlighten me on the last couple of min w/ the video online? 

[rpm]

It was'nt online. That was the video Bravo2 shot during the invasion. They just finished editing it.

[Grayeagle]

I worked mid shift at Udorn for most of my days there.
(well .. cept for the 52 hour stint I pulled voluntarily during the Fall of Saigon)

Very different than Islam country for sure.
Even so .. the Thai guard outside our shop fell asleep one night.
Captain of the guard shot him dead ..while he slept from what I heard.
I was inside the shop at the time, we all kinda piled out to see what happened.

There was a flightline truck got shot up one night for motorin onto the line without checkin with the thai guard shack
..was some noob from stateside drivin and ignored the lil guy in the shack.
Noob was lucky.. only got a lil cutup from stuff flyin around in his truck when the bullets ripped it up.

Coupla people in our shop lived downtown.
Car pulled up one night near this guys shack, coupla guys piled out,
..and they machine-gunned the hootch next to his really worked it over good I heard,
..then piled in and drove off.
They moved back on base the next day.

Saw a bank robbery downtown one beautiful sunny day .. ROFL ..was a poor career move on his part.
Off duty Thai Army an such carry their weapons ..
..I heard the alarms go off a couple blocks down the street,
.. buncha yelling, local lady grabbed me and pulled me down,
..and just like an old chicago movie .. coupla guys looked like Thai Army gunned that poor sap down right there on the spot, no muss no fuss.

They use AK-47's.. they really are deeper-slower tone than M-16.

I was there at Ramstein when Nato HQ was blown up.
I was on a flight into Korea when KAL 009 was shot down.
My wife/relatives/friends all thought I was dead for several days before I was able to get word to her.

I did my time in crazy places that are just so far removed from 'normal' most will never have any idea.
When I first heard the news about the start of Desert Storm long ago ..
..my first feeling was one of releif that I was not goin to have to go.
I had been out of the USAF a couple years by then.

I laughed when I heard some 'Ted Baxter' talking head say it was goin to be another 'Vietnam'
..dood there is really no place you can hide out there.
21 days from crossin the wire to Baghdad ..against the 4th largest army determined to stop that from happening.
The Islamic version of 'Ted Baxter' talkin head sayin there were no Americans in Baghdad, with M-1's rollin behind him on the riverbank ..
.. PRICELESS.

It's a shame we could not just turn the keys over and say 'have a nice day' at the end of it.
At least the place isnt bein run by a total wack job and they have a chance at a do-over.

I thought Generation Kill was very well done.
I'd love to see a version of it done highlighting the A-10 guys.
They really laid it down.

-Frank aka GE

[Redlegs]

It was a very good series. Now we have to wait for The Pacific next year.

[JunkyII]

The best part of this series is the driver of the lead vechicle. His reasons for the war in Iraq are hilarious

[indy007]

The best part of this series is the driver of the lead vechicle. His reasons for the war in Iraq are hilarious

Shows how bright he was jumping Fruity Rudy during the football game. Kudos to whoever did their fight choreography. Those were probably the most 2 realistic scraps ever shown on a fictional series.

[Rich46yo]

The best part of this series is the driver of the lead vechicle. His reasons for the war in Iraq are hilarious

And not far from the truth either. Really! Boys and young men dont flirt with girls in these countries. They pretty much stay separate unless related. Theres no dateing, going to the beach, or even going to school together, "gee that sounds like fun". And even more important their woman are pretty much "property" no matter how they try and portray it.

Yeah Eagle I remember a TDY at a sight once, "special resources" inside, that we were guarding with the locals outside on the perimeter, a mid shift. Well two of them got into it and started swinging on each other, meanwhile were up on a berm watching. One of them grabbed an AK, jacked one, and tried to shoot the other. All of them then jumped on the AK grabber and held him.

What followed was almost slapstick comedy. The SGT showed up and put the boots to the guy, then the higheer SGT showed up, the lesser SGT stopped, and the higher SGT started putting the boots to him. Same thing when the LT showed up, then the Capt., then the Major. It was like watching The Three Stooges. Finally the dragged him off.

The next day the other guards told us the AK grabber died from the beating they gave him.

Gulf 1 ? Once we reached a certain level of buildup I knew that Iraqi military was as good as dead. They might as well as have started building their shrouds then. The Air war was won in the first night and as for the ground war my predictions were one to two weeks. But that included going into Baghdad and putting Saddams head into a basket.

And no matter what anyone thinks about the war over there believe me when I say that traveling 1/2 across the world, destroying a military machine, and then murdering Saddam and his sons and henchmen.....That IS a language thats understood there. Thats somthing countries over there have no problem understanding.