A-20 damage

[Anaxogoras]

Ok, let's see the parade of photos where A-20s came home with unbelievable amounts of damage.  I normally don't see a lot of them, but tonight was an exception, and they sure are tough nuts to crack. 

On one occasion, an A20 was hanging in a shallow climb.  I gave him a long burst of 13mm followed by a short burst of 30mm for the coup de grace: "that'll do him" I thought (the setup was so perfect every round hit home).  Not so, all I saw was some tailfeather parts fall off and he kept going, though I got a kill when someone else finished him off.

Later, an A-20 was doing a zeke impression looping around and then luffberrying once he ran out of steam.  I got a tater snap shot on the outer section of his left wing as he was pulling hard in a 90 degree turn, and that time nothing came off.
 

[Easyscor]

And that's what makes the bus so attractive to it's fans. 

[TIMMY]

in my experience the a20 if as fragile and strong @ the same time.
The fuselage can soak quite a few hits and the fuel tank take alot to get burning
The  engines and control surfaces and general outer wing areas dont take much to knock off.
For example i remember a case where i was hit with about 3 30mm and a few 20's (hits where around fuselage Tail area )
and only lost and elevator ( the following overshoot was the end for the attacker)

On the other hand ive had a single 30mm and a single 20m hit wingtip
which resulted in half of my wing coming off and bye bye a20

Later, an A-20 was doing a zeke impression looping around and then luffberrying once he ran out of steam.  I got a tater snap shot on the outer section of his left wing as he was pulling hard in a 90 degree turn, and that time nothing came off.
 

ive had this happen a couple of mg or a 20 prob would of seen it drop

when i attack a20's i aim for the engines they only need a couple of cannon to knock them out
the 30 is just enough to kill the engine without having to wait for the oil to drain and an A20 with one engine barely stays airbourne

this may be wrong just my observations

[RipChord929]

Wing hits seem to be the worst for A20...
Even if ya don't take it off instantly, the next time
he pulls any G, it snaps right off...

Tail and elevators too!!! When you loose elevators
in A20, nose pitches up HARD.. Only way to keep it
from stalling out, is to throttle back to 125mph...
Then you're a sittin duck...

Of course, if ya force him into a fast dive, you can
get the kill without firing a shot...
When his plane rips apart at about 425mph..

All in all tho, It'll take way more hits than a 110,
Harder target than a B25, carries a better ord load
than an IL2, and can be pretty handy in a dogfight...

So I'll keep flyin it...
But I'm longing for the A26 in latewar....

After all A20 is a prewar airframe... And when
the sky is full of N1K's, LA7's, Spit16's, Tiffy's,
and cannon armed C'hogs... What can a guy do,
except die w style???

RC

[Anaxogoras]

ive had this happen a couple of mg or a 20 prob would of seen it drop

If that's the case, then the tater should make it drop because it packs a bigger punch.

Anyway, thanx for your observations.  I have to give the A-20 more respect and pump 'em full of twice as much led next time.

[TIMMY]

If that's the case, then the tater should make it drop because it packs a bigger punch.

Anyway, thanx for your observations.  I have to give the A-20 more respect and pump 'em full of twice as much led next time.

sorry i meant this as after a 30mm hit in the same area
but like RipChord said if he pulled g's its bye bye a20

[Ack-Ack]

Of course, if ya force him into a fast dive, you can
get the kill without firing a shot...
When his plane rips apart at about 425mph..
RC

You can dive in the A-20 beyond that speed and it won't break up at all.  However, pulling anything above 3Gs at 400mph IAS will cause the A-20 to rip off the elevators.  If you're at 400mph IAS or greater and in a dive, pull gently back on the stick, pulling no more than 2.5Gs and you should come out with parts still attached to your plane.  It goes without saying that you might want a little bit of cushion between you and the ground.


ack-ack

[Noir]

30mm isn't what is was...I keep getting assists in me262 on fighters

[Shane]

It goes without saying that you might want a little bit of cushion between you and the ground.

ack-ack

that's what I use my ego for.     

[Gixer]

I love coming across A20s in the Yak-9T... Tap Tap BOOM! 


<S>...-Gixer

[humble]

You can get an A-20 up to about 460 or so...but you can also lose parts at speeds under 400 with heavy G loading. No question that the A-20 absorbs an awful lot of lead if its spread out, up to and including a 30mm or 2 IF none of the cannon rounds hit a critical area like wing root/wingtip/vertical slab.

[RipChord929]

Ack Ack,
I really hate when I hear that "BANG" and stuff starts flyin off my plane...
Mostly its because I forgot to throttle down in the dive, with a full bombload...
Your right it says around 425 on the white needle, faster on the red one..
Red one is my tru airspeed... My eyes just click on the white needle first....

Rc

[Anaxogoras]

You can get an A-20 up to about 460 or so...but you can also lose parts at speeds under 400 with heavy G loading. No question that the A-20 absorbs an awful lot of lead if its spread out, up to and including a 30mm or 2 IF none of the cannon rounds hit a critical area like wing root/wingtip/vertical slab.

I wish I had film, but you're contradicting the original post.  This 30mm shell hit the outer section of the wing during the A-20's 90 degree turn and nothing happened.  I've always found the 30mm MK108 to be pathetically weak when you hit the fuselage of a bomber, while the wings are the vulnerable part, so you can imagine my surprise (not even an aileron came off).

The A-20 is one of the smallest/lightest twin engine bombers in the game, no?

[humble]

I wish I had film, but you're contradicting the original post.  This 30mm shell hit the outer section of the wing during the A-20's 90 degree turn and nothing happened.  I've always found the 30mm MK108 to be pathetically weak when you hit the fuselage of a bomber, while the wings are the vulnerable part, so you can imagine my surprise (not even an aileron came off).

The A-20 is one of the smallest/lightest twin engine bombers in the game, no?

"outer wing" and wingtip arent the same. A 30mm right on the wingroot or right on the tip will do more damage then the other 75% of the wing surface. Just outside the wingroot and normally you'll lose a flap. Hit the trailing inside part of the wingtip area normally gets a flap. The A-20G is  really a hybrid of a sort. It's somewhere between a true bomber and a heavy twin engine fighter...its got much better overall handling then a typical bomber and the G had beefed up structural elements to help it with G's etc...

If you've got film then you can see exactly where you hit, but I'g guess you just hammered the sheet metal a bit.