N1K2-Ja with four 250kg bombs?

[Karnak]

According to the National Museum the N1K2-Ja could carry four 250kg bombs.  If this is accurate, it seems to me that it would be a very good change for the N1K2-J as one of the largest balance issues between the US forces and Japanese forces in semi-historical setups is the lack of a Japanese fighter bomber that carries a competitive warload.  This would address that.  As such, I suggest changing the N1K2-J to an N1K2-Ja.

KAWANISHI N1K2-JA SHIDEN KAI (GEORGE)
TECHNICAL NOTES (N1K2-Ja):
Armament: Four Type 99-2 20mm cannon and four 551-lb. bombs
Engine: 1,990 hp Nakajima NK9H Homare
Maximum speed: 369 mph

[titanic3]

 

[waystin2]

If the information is accurate I will support this 100%, and would suggest moving this one to the wishlist Karnak.  Seems to me (bearing in mind my coding ignorance) that it should be easy to implement.

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[Karnak]

If the information is accurate I will support this 100%, and would suggest moving this one to the wishlist Karnak.  Seems to me (bearing in mind my coding ignorance) that it should be easy to implement.

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Point taken.  I will repost it there.

Skuzzy, if you see this feel free to lock it.

[Delirium]

Was it a field modification or was it set up from the factory to carry that load out?

Many aircraft, including my beloved p38, were able to carry much more ord than they were rated by the factory but we go with factory settings, historically.

[mg1942]

N1K2-Ja,Model 21A
"Shiden Kai" 「紫電改」
Fighter-bomber version.

Constructed by...

Kawanishi: 393
Mitsubishi: 9
Aichi: 1
Shouwa Hikouki: 1
Oumura Navy Arsenal: 10
Hiro Navy Arsenal: 1

This is the most common land-based variant of N1Ks.

[Karnak]

Was it a field modification or was it set up from the factory to carry that load out?

If the data is accurate it would be a factory model.

[mg1942]

Isn't all N1K2s the Kai of N1K1s ?

Kai 「改」 means revision.  The N1K2 is the revision, improvement, and the simplification of the original N1K1 Shiden.

[Stoney]

Given the advantage the object damage model gives to cannons, the N1K2 in-game is the equal of any U.S.  fighter in an attack configuration, save the F4U-1C or the late model Jugs.

[Noir]

*throw his mosquito away*

[Karnak]

Given the advantage the object damage model gives to cannons, the N1K2 in-game is the equal of any U.S.  fighter in an attack configuration, save the F4U-1C or the late model Jugs.

I disagree.  The N1K2-J is slower and much more vulnerable to defensive fire while the damage from its cannons takes very much longer to apply.  US aircraft can get in and get out very fast, doing the damage all at once.

Noir,

I am not talking about taking up the N1K2-J myself.  I try not to look at the game through too myopic a lense.

[Stoney]

I disagree.  The N1K2-J is slower and much more vulnerable to defensive fire while the damage from its cannons takes very much longer to apply.  US aircraft can get in and get out very fast, doing the damage all at once.

Your OP states that the imbalance exists because the U.S. fighters have higher payloads of ordnance and didn't mention speeds.  I was merely commenting on total weight of fire as a combination of bombs, rockets, and guns/cannon.  When merely looking at total ordnance capablity, the N1K2 currently in-game is a match for all U.S. fighters except the F4U-1C and the bubble-top Jugs.

Strangely enough, most Jabo sorties in the MA, and even the most successful Jabo sorties in the SEA rely upon cannon armed fighters, and not bomb trucks.

[Karnak]

Does the total damage come out the same?

I know when I tested the Mosquito VI, Bf110G-2 and P-38L the Mosquito didn't come close to matching the P-38L's destructive capability and was less than 50% of the Bf110G-2's.

[Stoney]

To be honest, I haven't done the math, but I'm guessing that within a certain percentage, the F4U-1D, F6F, & P-51D are all roughly equivalent to the N1K2 when taking the cannons into account.  I didn't really think about the P-38 since I feel its a terrible attack fighter (against a defended target).  Since it has such a vast potential ammo load for the guns and 5" HVAR capability, the P-38L may go in with the F4U-1C and bubble top P-47's.  The P-47D-25 would be debatable since it can't carry 5" HVAR, but still has 3200 rounds of caliber .50.

However, and not to be obtuse, but in order to narrow the focus of the discussion to your OP and not let the thread wander, I didn't make the comparison to any British or German aircraft.  You compared the N1K2 to U.S. aircraft only.  Comparing the capability of the N1K2 to the Mosquito or 110 would be a totally different comparison, and one in which I feel the N1K2 would lose hands-down.

[Karnak]

No, I wasn't comparing it to the British and German aircraft.  Just referencing my tests on those three as I had actually tested them.

The Mosquito carries 700 rounds of 20mm and four 500lb bombs, which is similar to the museum's claim on the N1K2-Ja.  For my part I have always put the F4U-1D, P-51D and P-38L all in roughly the same category for striking power with a mix of rockets and 1,000lb bombs.