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Offline cobia38

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cool Havoc stuff
« on: August 26, 2008, 05:09:38 PM »

 i ran across some neat A-20 airforce photos,thought i would share :aok

  first is 4x20mm version with droptank mounted in bombay.
  second is cheek mounted gunpods with 6 .50s
  3rd and 4th are my fav. rocket asisted take off. allso would be handy for chasing down those who run when the tables turn :devil

 some of these would be intresting perk options

 





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Re: cool Havoc stuff
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2008, 05:16:03 PM »
 :aok

The 4 x 20mm got a lot of use in soviet service. My understanding is that a number of the 6 x .50 cal were converted to 4 x 20mm beyond the initial shipments that came with the 20mm option....
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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2008, 05:40:20 PM »
 :aok nice pic's
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Re: cool Havoc stuff
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2008, 05:46:49 PM »
Way cool man!!! :aok
Need those 20mms's

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« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2008, 07:54:35 PM »
Nice!!!  :aok
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« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2008, 09:43:41 PM »
20mm cannons ShVAK's?
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« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2008, 09:53:59 PM »
Christ, don't tell Cobia!

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« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2008, 11:02:35 PM »
The initial US production run was 4 x 20mm (250), almost all of those were sent to the Soviets. After the US converted to the 6 x 50cal layout the Russians converted a portion back to the 20mm configuration using Russian 20mm's...
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Offline Angus

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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2008, 04:56:36 AM »
So the initial ones would be...cute :D
Almost a mossie ;)
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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2008, 06:03:34 AM »
Quote from: humble on August 27, 2008, 11:02:35 PM
The initial US production run was 4 x 20mm (250), almost all of those were sent to the Soviets. After the US converted to the 6 x 50cal layout the Russians converted a portion back to the 20mm configuration using Russian 20mm's...

Do ya happen to know what the Ammo capacity was for the 20mm version?
American guns? Russian guns?

And, were they the same guns as IL2?
Woooooeeee, those nasty IL2 guns and 8x500lb'ers...
Mmmm, I'm kinda likin that idea!!!

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« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2008, 06:14:01 AM »
it says 20mm, not 23mm
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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2008, 06:22:11 AM »
Oh yeah, thats right, I forgot....
Mmmmm, happy wishful thinking....LOL...

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« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2008, 08:42:47 AM »
Quote from: Angus on August 28, 2008, 04:56:36 AM
So the initial ones would be...cute :D
Almost a mossie ;)

I've always thought the 4 x 20mm option would be a great perk option for the A-20 if/when we get the perk ord option....
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Offline Furball

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« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2008, 08:49:44 AM »
IIRC the RAF used them with a ventral pack of 4 x 20mm as intruders/nightfighters.
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« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2008, 01:29:44 PM »
Quote from: humble on August 27, 2008, 11:02:35 PM
The initial US production run was 4 x 20mm (250), almost all of those were sent to the Soviets. After the US converted to the 6 x 50cal layout the Russians converted a portion back to the 20mm configuration using Russian 20mm's...

The top picture is of a P-70, the night fighter variant of the A-20.  IIRC, all of the P-70s saw service in the PTO only and were not Land Lease planes.  However, that doesn't mean the Soviets didn't field modify some of their Land Lease A-20s with cannons but that picture is definitely of a P-70 Night Fighter.

The P-70 was also the only A-20 variant in the USAAF inventory to have the 20mm cannon weapon package.


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