How do you think you would do in RL air combat?

[StSanta]

I would do very well.

I'd take my 190, fly low to Sweden, hide it in a barn and sell it after the war ends  .



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StSanta
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"

[stegor]

..I thinK i'll die at the first HO    (hate them)
Anyone know if ater dying we could whine (about F4 ,Niki)??? Could it be nice



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Stefano  "Nibbio"
4°Stormo CT "F.Baracca"

[Jekyll]

 

I'd take my 190, fly low to Sweden, hide it in a barn and sell it after the war ends

Now there's some lateral thinking for you.  Now if only Goering and Co had had the right idea, they could have left the entire Luftwaffe on the ground and bided their time.

If they sold them now they could buy Europe!  Why bother invading?

190's anyone?

[sourkraut]

It's -
Train as you fight, fight as you train.

As a developer of training simulators for warfighters, I would say that this game provides a training "capability" for team tactics and interaction/communication. I say capability because command/team play here is very rarely exercised the way it is in RL.

The fidelity of the simulation is insufficient to provide much more than that.  The flight model, while pretty decent (for a PC game), is not sufficient for flight training. Obviously gunnery training is not supported, either. It does not support any preflight procedures,  no engine management training, and certainly does not support navigation training.

I think it could also be used to demonstrate CONCEPTS of BFM, ACM but not to train how to do them. (Concept training is known as Knowledge training; learning how to do something (eg, by practice) is known as Skills training.)

To answer the question on how I would do in RL. I don't think that I would do any better - which is scary since I suck here.

I do know that if a RL combat experienced pilot spent time learning the nuances here and had lots of practice he would kick butt. He also would be called an "allied opportunist" by some because of his tendency to fly to live.

Sour


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[Wotan]

The only relevant question is what kind of man are you. Do you think you compare well with the men who went up day after day knowing that the odds against their survival were slim. Lets say your a spit mk1 pilot or a hurricane pilot during the darkest days of the battle of britain or luftwaffe pilot risking all to stop the rain of terror that visits your land day after day. or a jap pilot in a tony grabbin alt to meet a b29 or facing the endless wave of us air power or a polish, french, finnish  or soviet pilot upping in out dated aircraft with minimum training to face a seemingly undefeatable enemy. If most of us take an honest look at who we are knowing what we know would you go? Granted most had little real idea in the beginning about what they faced they simply went through it some lived alot died but there's no doubt that in last days any axis pilot who upped to stop the slaughter being visited on his cities or in the begining any allied pilot who risked it all to stem the tide was something special. Im an American love my land and am proud of what my grandparents achieved but I dont think when I was 18-24 I was even close to half the men they were. Off topic sorry but i think relevant.


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[Wlfgng]

Moose I just may have to take you up on that..!  It'd be a blast!

June you say ? hmmmmm
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[Suave1]

The thing about combat is, you could be super huah and still get killed the first day . Bullets don't care what your name is, and it only takes one .

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[MiG Eater]

I've flown with Air Combat USA quite a few times and completed their advanced air combat course.  I did well and one of the instructors that I flew with offered me a job as an IP.  (I'm flying T-34's now and working my way towards a commercial rating, which they require.)  

If you are overweight, have eyesight problems, are prone to motion sickness or lack the stamina to endure the G forces, no amount of sim training will help overcome these problems.  Simming is a great way to learn the basics fighter maneuvers, energy management and overall tactics.  But sims lack the disorientating aspects of motion and only provide a small window in which to see the world.  You also have to monitor air traffic as well as all of the real aircraft systems which are nearly non-existant in many combat sims.  

Some people do well, some get really sick and some people have the time of their lives even if they "lose."  I'd recommend that y'all give the real thing a try with any of the civilian air combat schools.  Its pricey but worth it.

MiG