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Offline wojo71

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Re: First Night Likes/Dislikes
« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2008, 01:44:42 PM »
Thought about a base capture last night,but everybody was having so much fun furballing  I just thought we'd get a feel for the map :salute .d id try a bomber mission it was fun.     :rock

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Re: First Night Likes/Dislikes
« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2008, 01:49:07 PM »
Huh??  I don't follow you, sorry.

I'd rather not elaborate or dwell on the subject. I will breifly though just to give you a chance to understand what I mean.

Let's just say that having people switching in an effort to balance sides messes with tactical decision making. I may make a quick plan of attack based on certain numbers. Then have 5 players switch sides trying to make it a fair fight. There's no such thing as a fair fight. Were it up to me I'd push side switching timers out to like 24 hours or more.
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Re: First Night Likes/Dislikes
« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2008, 02:24:17 PM »
I understand the concern, but I believe without side switching allowed many nights the AvA will just be dead.


Also Damionte, please feel free to elaborate on any subject.  I want people to speak up and make their point.  I may not always agree with you, but as I said in the beginning this is a community development.  It's not Bug's War, it's Our War. <S>
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Re: First Night Likes/Dislikes
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2008, 02:25:15 PM »
MA Bomb site has been enabled and radar range reduced to 10 miles.

Keep the input coming guys! <S>
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Re: First Night Likes/Dislikes
« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2008, 03:44:50 PM »
Just had a peek in the AvA, the map looks fantastic.
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Re: First Night Likes/Dislikes
« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2008, 03:52:46 PM »
I think MA hardness works well.  I think the MOTD has hangers at 2.0?

Great job setting this up Bug.  S!
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Re: First Night Likes/Dislikes
« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2008, 04:10:50 PM »
I tried some high altitude bombing and the wind makes it tough.  No wonder I was flailing around with the ava bombsite, it's already hard enough as it is with the ma bombsite.

Hangar toughness is out of this world.  I don't forsee closing any airfields or pulling off any field captures unless there is zero opposition or overwhelming force, e.g. 20 guys attacking with <3 defenders.
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Re: First Night Likes/Dislikes
« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2008, 09:09:24 PM »
The MA bombsight does NOT allow for wind. The manual (AvA) bombsight does, but you must learn to setup the IP and heading properly. With the MA sight, you must use Kentucky windage, good luck with that.
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Re: First Night Likes/Dislikes
« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2008, 05:48:36 PM »
One thing that seems to be the last to be brought up, and yes I will do it.  Ground attacks, or gv''s seem to always take the short end of the stick during all these battles.  Africa.... always thought the tanks were the main focus of the conflict there.  Well, we have m8's, a jeep, and an m3.  All to well able to be destroyed by a passing fighter.  I don't mind furballing, I do it occasionally, but put the tanks in the the mix.  This will make the CO's use some planning, and SA, and gain the challenge that most people are asking for.  Nothing like setting up a gv raid on a target, start up and here comes one or two fighters and wipe ya out in a few passe's, no it has not happened, but with the set up now....  Africa was a tank war was it not............. lets tank it out, grab some land, and if a pilot wants to grab a heavy fighter, OK he kills 1 or 2 at the most, flies home and re-arms for another round... but with m8's only... he could kill the whole lot of ya.... laughing as he flies away. 

Lets get it on a nice even level here, gv'ers will not attack a base in force with m8's... especially when any plane in here can kill it with little effort. 

Noe do not get me wrong................. ONE helofva.......JOB on the map................  like it ALLOTT!!!!!!!

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Re: First Night Likes/Dislikes
« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2008, 05:52:55 PM »
One thing that seems to be the last to be brought up, and yes I will do it.  Ground attacks, or gv''s seem to always take the short end of the stick during all these battles.  Africa.... always thought the tanks were the main focus of the conflict there.  Well, we have m8's, a jeep, and an m3.  All to well able to be destroyed by a passing fighter.  I don't mind furballing, I do it occasionally, but put the tanks in the the mix.  This will make the CO's use some planning, and SA, and gain the challenge that most people are asking for.  Nothing like setting up a gv raid on a target, start up and here comes one or two fighters and wipe ya out in a few passe's, no it has not happened, but with the set up now....  Africa was a tank war was it not............. lets tank it out, grab some land, and if a pilot wants to grab a heavy fighter, OK he kills 1 or 2 at the most, flies home and re-arms for another round... but with m8's only... he could kill the whole lot of ya.... laughing as he flies away. 

Lets get it on a nice even level here, gv'ers will not attack a base in force with m8's... especially when any plane in here can kill it with little effort. 

Noe do not get me wrong................. ONE helofva.......JOB on the map................  like it ALLOTT!!!!!!!

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     That is a very valid argument but what gvs will be used without using a substitution? The firefly never served in this theater, the only possibility would be to enable panzers on both sides.

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Re: First Night Likes/Dislikes
« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2008, 06:22:47 PM »
That was my exact concern, I don't mind adding the firefly as a Sherman sub in the later weeks but initially I thought the M8s would be a good sub for the light tanks of the theater.  But I must confess I am far from a GV guy so I might be a little messed up when it comes to that part of the setup.  I am not opposed to enabling the Panzer for the Axis, but what should it be for the Allies??  T34 sub or just go with the Firefly??
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Re: First Night Likes/Dislikes
« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2008, 11:05:43 PM »
As Eagle pointed out, I have purposefully not organized GV assaults for that very reason. We don't have anything that can stand up to fighter guns. Plus travel time.

It just takes too long to get the GV's to the targets. Then once there it doesn't take much to knock them out.

Something else we found out this evening. We don't need anythign but transports to take the vehicle bases. The capture is set to need just 1 troop.

Since there are only 2 defensive guns on the VB's two transports can over realm the auto guns and get one trooper in for the capture.

Also to calm down some of the Allies who were griping about this. i am well aware that we can milk run the VB's. I am purposefully trying to take air fields just to see if it can be done with the equipment we have.

It can, but not with just 4-5 people that we generally get to do an attack.
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Re: First Night Likes/Dislikes
« Reply #27 on: August 31, 2008, 01:32:34 AM »
That was my exact concern, I don't mind adding the firefly as a Sherman sub in the later weeks but initially I thought the M8s would be a good sub for the light tanks of the theater.  But I must confess I am far from a GV guy so I might be a little messed up when it comes to that part of the setup.  I am not opposed to enabling the Panzer for the Axis, but what should it be for the Allies??  T34 sub or just go with the Firefly??
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The armor was also very similar -- the only unhistoric advantage the T-34 will bestow vs. the M4 is its speed.
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