The Annoited One's Acceptance Speech....

[moot]

Why is it people listen to what politicians SAY, instead of seeing how they ACTUALLY VOTED? They'll SAY ANYTHING to get elected, it's what they've DONE and what they'll DO that matters. And what they've DONE is what will give the best idea of what they'll DO, and NOT what they SAY.

Q&BFT

[Shuckins]

Headlines in today's paper:  GDP up by 3.2% during the last fiscal year.

Doesn't sound like a depression to me. 



The speech was well delivered....but the same old same old.  New programs to help out those in need.  Soak the rich....tax cuts to the middle class (Clinton promised them too....then reneged after he was elected.) 

[Charon]

2nd amendment. He mentioned keeping the second while keeping AK's out "of the hands  of Criminals." Counter to what the right moans he didn't say outlaw gun ownership but he specifically said keeping out of the hands of "criminals" while specifically stating maintaining the second amendment.

His actions speak much louder than his words. And if he's bending the truth here, where else is he bending the truth? Where he at the same time trumpets personal responsibility but calls on the govt. to be our "keeper?"

Here's his record on gun control:

* Ok for states & cities to determine local gun laws. (Apr 2008)
* FactCheck: Yes, Obama endorsed Illinois handgun ban. (Apr 2008)
* Respect 2nd Amendment, but local gun bans ok. (Feb 2008)
* Provide some common-sense enforcement on gun licensing. (Jan 2008)
* 2000: cosponsored bill to limit purchases to 1 gun per month. (Oct 2007)
* Concealed carry OK for retired police officers. (Aug 2007)
* Stop unscrupulous gun dealers dumping guns in cities. (Jul 2007)
* Keep guns out of inner cities--but also problem of morality. (Oct 2006)
* Bush erred in failing to renew assault weapons ban. (Oct 2004)
* Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions. (Jul 1998)
* Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005)

Here's a democratic strategy piece on how to appear pro 2nd without actually going there, because they know that most of the American people are rubes who will let emotion get in the way of analysis and logic:

If a candidate or officeholder intends to support gun safety laws like closing the gun show loophole or renewing the assault weapons ban, it is critical to couple that support with support for the Second Amendment and for enforcing the laws on the books.
http://www.thirdway.org/data/product/file/21/taking_back_2nd_amendment.pdf

Even if you agree with his views on the issue, how he is presenting them shows he is hardly some new breeze of change blowing through Washington. He's simply a more appealing Ted Kennedy or Dick Durbin, and if that's the change you want I'm sure he'll try to deliver it for you.

Charon

[lazs2]

dred..  that is really admirable that you are a man who is not swayed by..  uh.. the way a politician votes and who he has as mentors and the things he has said in the past.

It is the greatest of thinkers like yourself who can ignore all that and go by what they say in their final scripted speeches.

charon beat me to it but it is a great example of your thinking.. the whole gun control thing..   You say "hey.. he said he just wants to keep machine guns out of the hands of criminals.. that is good enough for me"

When in fact.. even a cursory glance at his voting record and things he has said in the past show that he wants to destroy the meaning of the second amendment and is probably one of the biggest enemies of the second amendment that every existed.

If he only wanted to keep machine guns out of the hands of criminals..   and left the rest of us alone..  He would be getting the strongest support from the NRA in its history.

Sorry.. your basing what the guy believes and is going to do on one speech and ignoring all the evidence is not what I would describe as one of those rare "thinking man" things.   

You simply seem to be one of those people who are easily fooled.

It is the same with the liberal socialist radicals and amerihaters he has grow up with and surrounded himself with..  if your daughter hung out with a bad crowd.. you would think something was wrong wouldn't you?

sure.. as soon as the limelight is on them he tries to distance himself.. much as his wife who says that she was never proud of America now claims to be it's biggest fan.

I am a thinking man too..  I have no love for Mccain..  he has his flaws but..  I don't judge either by their scripted and ghost written speeches but but the content of their character and the the people they admired and the way they voted and the things they said when they weren't running for pres.

The osamaba is a liar.  worse than most politicians.. He votes against me so I will vote against him.

I don't think a lot of people will be fooled by any politician tho..  there will be some.. those who claim to "think"  will be fooled..

The rest?   the negros and illegals will vote straight party ticket.  the unions.. especially the ones who get a lot for a little like the teachers will vote straight party democrat.

Those who like liberal socialism will vote for osamaba..  those who do not will not vote for him.

If he wins or not will be determined by how far down the slippery slope of socialism we have fallen.   How whiney and dependent we have become and how far we have strayed from individual responsibility.

lazs

[Kaw1000]

just curious... will you be counting McCain's?

I Don't know. You could tell Obama was nervous at first...guess thats why he kept saying "thank you" so much.
If McCain says it more than five times I will start the count down.

[Yeager]

I watched, hoping for something good to happen.  Rhetoric was good and entertaining but totally lacked specifics of any kind.  Im beginning to think there may indeed be something to the blog speculation that Obama and his wife are Marxists, and that they are hiding their real intentions from the American people.

[Donzo]

He whips out the sitting on their hands while a city drowns rhetoric.

He was talking about the Mayor of New Orleans and the Governor of Louisiana, right?

[lazs2]

well.. of course they are marxists.. how else could they stand to be around all the marxists that they have been around?

I don't know if this is a good thing but..  they may not even know they are marxists.

With the pick of Palin by Mccain..  the whole democrat circus that was the convention and speech will be forgotten and everyone will get back to wondering just how much left wing stuff they can take if the guy gets elected.

lazs

[Nwbie]

Headlines in today's paper:  GDP up by 3.2% during the last fiscal year.

Doesn't sound like a depression to me. 



The speech was well delivered....but the same old same old.  New programs to help out those in need.  Soak the rich....tax cuts to the middle class (Clinton promised them too....then reneged after he was elected.) 

On cnn this morning

inflation rate is highest it has been in 17 years

GDP is up because of the devaluation of the dollar - not such a bad thing - helps USA industry - maybe american produced products will become a reality again

[Chalenge]

Obama also lied in the speech (or he is dumber then I thought). He said he wants 'to end capital gains taxes on small businesses.' Small businesses dont pay capital gains taxes they pay income taxes. He is counting on Americans not to be bright enough to know the difference. Instead he will raise income taxes on these businesses and this is the one area that there is growth in the country right now. Perfect! Lets make sure the choke hold on America stays in place and vote another 'raise your taxes till it hurts' politician into office.

[Sandman]

He whips out the sitting on their hands while a city drowns rhetoric.

He was talking about the Mayor of New Orleans and the Governor of Louisiana, right?

Something else, I think.

[Chalenge]

Well dont worry sandman what Katrina failed to swamp another storm will succeed in washing away. Maybe next time the Governor of the state will call for help sooner.

[Nwbie]

" If he only wanted to keep machine guns out of the hands of criminals..   and left the rest of us alone..  He would be getting the strongest support from the NRA in its history."

I call BS

Why is the NRA against handgun laws in chicago?
Why are the ones who call everyone amerihaters the ones who are most afraid of "Their" government taking away their guns and turning their country into a dictatorship?

Loons - your'e all loons

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Making popcorn to read all the paranoid - save my gun rights, cuz ya can't trust anyone peeps to respond.....



NwBie


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[Chalenge]

Congress should make no laws prohibiting the right to own or bear arms (not a direct quote). Thats pretty easy to understand isnt it? Congress has gone way way beyond the founding fathers limits already. The NRA is right to hold them to a higher standard.

You know if you used logic instead of insult to support your position you might get somewhere.

[Nwbie]

Congress should make no laws prohibiting the right to own or bear arms (not a direct quote). Thats pretty easy to understand isnt it? Congress has gone way way beyond the founding fathers limits already. The NRA is right to hold them to a higher standard.

You know if you used logic instead of insult to support your position you might get somewhere.

If that is a response to my post - see below - if not - ignore

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The post is in response to what was quoted in my post
I still call BS
/and I read the context of the post before a jackboot response