Rotate and/or Adjust the Perked Aircraft.

[Sonicblu]

I was wondering if perking the planes would help for a different reason, with horde mentality. Give all planes but the worst a perk. Otherwise guys just up planes fly into a furball ho or pick three or so planes then they die because they have no acm skill or don't understand E. I was thinking it would help most guys be more cautious.

On perking the spits I have been flying the spitV a lot lately and it takes a very good pilot to kill me. Even if they are in the zero. The point is if your going to perk spits you might as well perk the V because I can kill just about anything in it. 

My thoughts were that it might be a good idea to give everything a perk value, but for different reasons.



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[Karnak]

The fact that you can paint a scenario in which Tempests are slaughtered by P-40Bs does not make that a useful scenario to argue anything.  The fact is that the Spitfire Mk XVI is flown by vets as well as noobs and it does not dominate even so.

The Tempest, which you argue only does so well because it is flown mostly by vets, would also do very well if flown by a mix of vets and noobs, just like the F4U-1C did when it was free.  Make no pretensions about that time, the F4U-1C was, by far, the most common aircraft used and it was used by the same crowd that uses the Spitfire Mk XVI and N1K2-J now, so many noobs and some vets.

The Spitfire Mk XIV, despite being perked and thus limited to players who should be technically better, fails to match the K/D ratio of some free planes that have their K/D numbers pulled down by inexperienced noobs.  There is no other unbiased metric that we have to use as an indicator besides usage and K/D ratios.  The Spitfire Mk XIV is essentially unused as a perk plane and has a appalling K/ ratio for a perk plane.

The Spitfire Mk XIV should be unperked just as the Ta152H-1 was.   If it were to then dominate as some here suggest it would be very easy to then reperk it, but I would personally be shocked if it were to even match the usage of the Spitfire Mk VIII let alone the Mk XVI.

[Spikes]

You're crazy, unperk the F4U's, perk the Nik? Yeah the Nik is a dweeb plane, but many planes can beat it. If you unperk the chog, that's all you'd see. If you unperk the -4, you'd never see the A hog or D hog again.

[uberslet]

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The Spit16 vs the Spit14.  Very similar planes under 25k, with a slight edge going to the Spit16 under that alt (roll, turn, accel).  Only at 25k+ does the Spit14 really seperate itself from the Spit16.  Below 25k, not only is the Spit14 slightly lessor than the Spit16, it is very much on par with the Spit8 and Spit9.  Unperk the Spit14 and/or perk the Spit16.  Like many, I do not understand the logic behind perking the 14 and not the 16.

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agreed here.

as far as the la goes, its not as uber as it used to be. doesnt excelerate as fast, it takes a wee bit of skill to fly well, but once you learn it its uber. as for its cannon's it isnt as good as the typhoon or tempests 4 hizooka cannons.

the hogs are perked not because theyre uber, but because they have a slight advantage over other planes. the f4u1c has 4 cannons that rip chiit apart, and, if flown well, is buetiful for picking with those 800+ rounds of cannon. the f4u4 is perked because of the hog family its the best over all. guns are average for the hogs, but its the fastest, rolls best, turns best, over all is the best hog, i think the f4u4 and f4u1c have an appropiete perk to them.

the thing you posted about the pony i also agree, but, in the case of the 412th, they should be perked, they just fly the ponies soooo well, its almost unbelievible.

You're crazy, unperk the F4U's, perk the Nik? Yeah the Nik is a dweeb plane, but many planes can beat it. If you unperk the chog, that's all you'd see. If you unperk the -4, you'd never see the A hog or D hog again.

agreed here also.

[SmokinLoon]

"idiotic sense of logic" is like asking to change things you dont ever understand, just because you dont like it, huh?

Wrong again.  I understand it perfectly and it has nothing to do with my likes or dislikes of the aircraft we fly.  It has everything to do with bringing some continuity and logical transgretion to the game.  Perhaps that is something you do not understand and care not to learn, "huh"?  You must be one of the sheep I mentioned earlier.  Do as told and dont stop to look around and ask questions.

[BnZ]

as far as the la goes, its not as uber as it used to be. doesnt excelerate as fast,

Several times this has come up, and if I remember correctly, each time the HTC staff has said that they have NOT changed the performance of the La-7.

[BnZ]

The XIV does not turn better than the XVI.  You weren't saying that, right?

No, it just turns better than almost everything unperked that will break 360mph on the deck.

There are already plenty of aircraft that can rundown and outturn the 190F-8, so it doesn't concern me too much.

You don't think that 190 A8/F8 vrs. SpitXIV MIGHT be a slightly different kettle of fish than 190 vrs. P-51, P-47, 109, Dora, etc?

  I just think it's a much more challenging aircraft to fly than the XVI, and even a less capable furballer.  The SpitXIV is really at its best when it's flown like a 51, and then it lacks the good roll rate that makes the 51 successful at diving attacks.

Furballing on the deck, you'd probably wish for any other Spit, yes. But plane choice is like paper, rock, scissors, now isn't it? The SpitXIV (like the La-7, I will add), is IMO is the "paper" to too many other "rocks" in the LW plane set to be an unperked ride.