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Offline Nwbie

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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #240 on: August 29, 2008, 10:42:46 PM »
Wrong answer thumpy.

Freedom "OF" religion.  To choose of your own FREEWILL!

Back to school for you.


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wrong

what does freedom of religion mean exactly to you?
If you believe it- it must be right - so now I need to make sure all schoolchildren believe it too?  Is that your stance?
Wrong country and wrong political belief...sounds more like communism -- now go wash your hands

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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #241 on: August 29, 2008, 10:49:49 PM »
Agreed, Dred.

I firmly believe in evolution. There's too much evidence, some of it even testable in some degrees (look at how selective breeding of livestock has changed in "only" a thousand years. Modern chickens are something like, 20-30 times more productive than the best egg-layers of medieval times) that life is changing and developing, even among humans. The fossil record is so incomplete we may never find the definitive "missing link," but there's enough supporting evidence to know that it IS out there somewhere.

But that DOESN'T necessarily rule out the possibility of God getting the ball rolling by putting the mechanisms that allow evolution to HAPPEN in place.

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Actually I think that this was exactly Carl Sagan's point also

Just don't shove it down my throat - if there are pearly gates to deal with..its my concern-no one elses..
Its ok to discuss your beliefs with me and my children...just don't force feed it to my children in school because that is what you want...
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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #242 on: August 29, 2008, 10:54:41 PM »
Dred what you just wrote makes a ton of sense and by that reasoning Palin IS the perfect choice to bring in that independant middle of the road voter.

Think about it like this. I'm an independant middle of the road voter and I think this woman is awsome. She isn't a career politician, she's a working mom with a real life who saw how bad things were screwed up in her home state so she ran for office, won, and promptly started getting rid of all the crooked state officials that were causing all the problems, even people within her own party. How many of us middle of the road indepandants haven't had the desire to do the exact same thing she has done for the exact same reason?

I believe she is going to appeal to a big majority of that independant middle of the road crowd because of who she is, how she lives her life, and because for the first time we actually have a choice to put someone "just like us" in the white house as the XO that actually stands a chance of making it.

I wish she was running by herself for President. I'd vote for her just because she IS just a regular person who has had a bunch of different jobs, and has actually WORKED for a living along with her husband, just like the rest of us working stiffs. I think she just clinched it for McCain once people get to know her and realize they can put someone that can really relate to the average American into the second highest office in the Nation.

You may just get your wish anyway if McCain wins. As I predict the geezer kicks the bucket before the end of his first term.
One of the problems I have with Mccain for me is I can in no way shape or form relate to him.
Not a single thing in his life can I relate to. Other then his father being in the service at the time of his birth. Born a military brat. Went to largely high end private schools, Military acadamy (where he graduated at the bottom of his class) I can respect his stint in the armed forces. but that was a long long time ago.

Wait. there is one thing we have in common. We both know what its like to have guns stuck in our faces on several occasions by unsavory people and not knowing if we would be alive 30 seconds from then.

But outside of that
Has had several wives before finally settling on a money bag.
He's never known what its like to be out of work, Refused work because of race or presumed nationality.
He has nothing in common with the common man. And more specifically...ME.


::edit:: forgot to finish with what I indended to say.

for his sake I hope she is as you discribe. One of us.
Her downside would be if her views are too conservative.
If so. then regardless of how much like us she is. He might as well have picked someone from Washington.
Im as tired of the right wing as I am from the left.
I want someone "Like us" who is more middle of the road and actually makes and has common sense.
Hard to see that happening from someone with very conservative or liberal views who has shared the same experiences as the common person.
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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #243 on: August 29, 2008, 10:58:38 PM »
Agreed, Dred.



But that DOESN'T necessarily rule out the possibility of God getting the ball rolling by putting the mechanisms that allow evolution to HAPPEN in place.

We tend to know and refer to them as scientific laws
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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #244 on: August 29, 2008, 11:14:51 PM »
LOL... two failed assumptions there RPM, most of us don't even fit the 'conservative right' mold.... seems to me the majority here is the same as the majority 'out there'... middle of the road citizens with more than a little disdain for political hacks regardless of 'party' affiliation. And none of us are shy about taking a dump in either party's cream of wheat.

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Hang, if you think this board is anywhere near middle of the road, your nuts. I'm about as middle of the road as it comes and I'm considered one of the far left. The imbalance is normal considering this is a war sim. There is a fair amount of Libertarians here tho.

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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #245 on: August 29, 2008, 11:20:37 PM »
Has Obama or Biden EVER held a real working job? I mean they both live in mansions with staff taking care of their every need, yet they spout off that they represent the regular working people of this country. Now the Democrats are taking shots at Palin saying she doesn't have the "experiance" to lead this country if McCain died in office.

a) At least Obama only has one house, compared to McCain's SEVEN
b) Yes, Obama did work in a law firm before he went into politics
c) I may be wrong here, but I honestly do not think that Palin has the necessary foreign policy experience to lead this country.  I'm not disputing what she has done during her time in office, because I don't know enough about it to argue that case.

What has Obama, or for that matter Biden, actually run as a chief executive? Obama wasn't even a senator for 150 days before he took the rest of his term off to run for President. Palin, on the other hand, served a full term as a mayor, and is into her THIRD YEAR (took oath of office in 2006, it is now 2008) as governor of a state, and she HAS NOT been gone from Alaska for most all of 2006, 2007, and 2008, like Obama has been gone from the Senate. Further, she's held REAL jobs, she has a SOLID voting record, and her stated positions match her voting record.

Obama was President of the Harvard Law Review magazine, which is very impressive.  Also, what you just said about her (near?) constant presence in Alaska highlights that she really doesn't seem qualified in Foreign policy enough to lead this country.

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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #246 on: August 29, 2008, 11:33:51 PM »
I'll put it this way. For instance, if John McCain croaked (died) while in office do you think she is qualified or even able to lead this country? She is a governor of Alaska, which coincidentally has more reindeer than people(I stole that line, but oh well). She is on her first term as governor of Alaska. At least Obama actually made it to Washington and represented one of the most populated states in the union. She is not by a longshot a qualified candidate.
twenty - by your definition of what makes a qualified canditate then George Washington wasnt qualified to be president, neither was Jefferson, Adams, Taylor, or Grant... probably a few others

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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #247 on: August 29, 2008, 11:35:06 PM »
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c) I may be wrong here, but I honestly do not think that Palin has the necessary foreign policy experience to lead this country.  I'm not disputing what she has done during her time in office, because I don't know enough about it to argue that case.
What makes Palin less qualified than Obama?
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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #248 on: August 29, 2008, 11:39:42 PM »
did i mention that i really like her as V.P.? :aok
cause i wasn't sure :huh


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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #249 on: August 29, 2008, 11:41:32 PM »

for his sake I hope she is as you discribe. One of us.
Her downside would be if her views are too conservative.
If so. then regardless of how much like us she is. He might as well have picked someone from Washington.
Im as tired of the right wing as I am from the left.
I want someone "Like us" who is more middle of the road and actually makes and has common sense.
Hard to see that happening from someone with very conservative or liberal views who has shared the same experiences as the common person.

If all she does is clean the place up a bit, she'll be the most remarkable chief executive OR VP in history. We all share one common value... corrupt politicians have to go and corporate looting of american citizens must stop.

It's the best possible place to start...
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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #250 on: August 30, 2008, 12:02:25 AM »
Actually most of the Christans I know do not beleive in Creationism in the same way pure creationists interpret  it
But rather a hybred of creation and evolution combined.
Which makes a hell of alot more sense then pure creationism.
Unless of course you can show me someone who was born as a burning bush. LMAO

That just cracks me up. I am a Christian and I don't know a single Christian that believes as you just stated. Not one. Christianity is based on the Bible, how one can call oneself a Christian and then disbelieve all or parts of the Book the entire faith is based on is beyond my comprehension. :)
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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #251 on: August 30, 2008, 12:17:37 AM »
That just cracks me up. I am a Christian and I don't know a single Christian that believes as you just stated. Not one. Christianity is based on the Bible, how one can call oneself a Christian and then disbelieve all or parts of the Book the entire faith is based on is beyond my comprehension. :)

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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #252 on: August 30, 2008, 12:21:31 AM »
That just cracks me up. I am a Christian and I don't know a single Christian that believes as you just stated. Not one. Christianity is based on the Bible, how one can call oneself a Christian and then disbelieve all or parts of the Book the entire faith is based on is beyond my comprehension. :)

Elfie, when the towlies round us up and start us on diggin the pits they'll bury us in, they won't discriminate between your version of Christianity or mine. ;)

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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #253 on: August 30, 2008, 12:24:14 AM »
That just cracks me up. I am a Christian and I don't know a single Christian that believes as you just stated. Not one. Christianity is based on the Bible, how one can call oneself a Christian and then disbelieve all or parts of the Book the entire faith is based on is beyond my comprehension. :)

One can be a bible literalist or one can believe that the bible is written to pass broad concepts to a scientifically illiterate people.

For instance one could believe that Adam from a bucket of dirt is tantamount to the first life form being spontaneously produced from the primordial ooze.  That producing Eve from Adam's rib is a literary device that describes cellular division.
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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #254 on: August 30, 2008, 12:32:27 AM »
That just cracks me up. I am a Christian and I don't know a single Christian that believes as you just stated. Not one. Christianity is based on the Bible, how one can call oneself a Christian and then disbelieve all or parts of the Book the entire faith is based on is beyond my comprehension. :)

Its not that they disbelieve in creation.
They just do not agree with the same interpretation that pure creationists have.
Most I know agree we were created in gods spiritual image. Not the physical one.
If you want to go by the bible.
The only time god physically appeared to anyone was to Moses. Where he appeared as a burning bush.

I dont know about you. but I've never personally seen a person that looked like a burning bush unless they set themselves on fire.
It is only mans arrogance that has us believe we look alike in the physical sense.

And Jesus was not God.
He was the son of God.
If he were God. He sure liked to talk to himself alot.

Evolution is really nothing more then adaptation over a long period of time.
Happens to animals all the time. They adapt to their environment and surroundings.
Just as we have adapted
You can see it in people from around the world in differing climates.
Its pretty safe to say that the proverbial Adam,Eve and perhaps for some of you Lilith, didnt look Chinese, Japanese, Arabic,Native American,European,Eskimo,black,Jewish etc,etc,etc
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