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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #450 on: August 31, 2008, 12:22:00 AM »
If true, sounds like a trooper that should have been fired immediately to me. Death threats while in uniform while wearing the service sidearm? Yah, right. His boss should have canned him tout de suite.

I probably would have waited until he was unarmed before I fired him.
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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #451 on: August 31, 2008, 12:58:53 AM »
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On March 1, 2006, Grimes sustained the allegations, saying, "The record clearly indicates a serious and concentrated pattern of unacceptable and at times, illegal activity occurring over a lengthy period, which establishes a course of conduct totally at odds with the ethics of our profession." Wooten was suspended for five days.

This certainly leads one to believe that the trooper should have been fired and not just suspended for 5 days.

If the death threats are true, then he should have been fired immediately and charges filed against him.
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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #452 on: August 31, 2008, 01:46:48 AM »
Actually Frode, just the opposite is true, she is for drilling in ANWR (and apparently so are most of Alaskans). If I irrc that drilling policy also extends to offshore as well.

I did a little reading up on her Elfie; you're right. She put forth the AGIA, which is being used to determine the company that get's the North Slope gasline. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin

http://www.usatoday.com/money/topstories/2008-07-23-4104671767_x.htm

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JUNEAU, Alaska — The Alaska State House of Representatives has approved a state license for a Canadian company to pursue a natural gas pipeline project that could unlock 4.5 billion cubic feet of North Slope gas reserves daily.
The House backed the plan on a 24-16 vote Tuesday. A reconsideration vote is planned Wednesday, but that's usually a formality. If approved then, the bill will go to the state Senate, which must approve or reject it before Aug. 2.

Lawmakers in Alaska's House voted to support Gov. Sarah Palin's proposal to award TransCanada Corp. an exclusive license to pursue federal certification for the 1,715-mile pipeline estimated to cost between $26 billion and $30 billion.

TransCanada Vice President Tony Palmer wasn't ready to celebrate just yet, nor would he make any predictions on how the Senate's vote will play out.

"I'm always uncertain until I see the votes," Palmer said. "I had no expectations as to how the votes would go until I saw the buttons pressed."

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The license doesn't guarantee pipeline construction. It simply calls for TransCanada to embark on a costly process of pursuing a federal certificate, but also with up to $500 million in state seed money.

There's the rub, said Rep. Mike Hawker, an Anchorage Republican who spoke out against the Alaska Gasline Inducement Act, or AGIA, license before casting a dissenting vote.

"We have to make it very clear is that this AGIA license is not a commitment to do anything other than process a whole lot of paper," Hawker said. "There is no commitment to move a shovel full of dirt toward a pipeline project."

Rep. Les Gara, an Anchorage Democrat, backed Palin's endorsement of TransCanada with the same understanding as Hawker, but with a different outlook.

"I think this is going to put the state on a stable footing," Gara said. "There is no clear path to a gas line. This is the clearest path to a gas line that protects the state's interest. That's all it is."

Even if the Senate concurs, it will still be at least another 10 years before any market sees Arctic gas. And there is still a competing pipeline moving forward without the state's startup money.

That project is a joint venture between North Slope oil producers and gas leaseholders ConocoPhillips and BP PLC, who believed Palin's AGIA format was too restrictive.

In the end, Majority Leader Ralph Samuels said the it's not the government's role to pick a winner. The Anchorage Republican was the lone dissenting vote when the law as passed last year, but had more support this year.

"The government is ill equipped to pick a winner in the marketplace," Samuels said. "We've simply blessed a winner in AGIA here."

House Rules Chairman John Coghill, a North Pole Republican, disagreed before voting yes.

"We are not picking a winner here, because there is not gas going to market," Samuels said. "What we are picking here is somebody who will work with us under certain conditions.

"It gets us lined up with a pipeline builder who not only who knows how to do it, but we get to know how they do it both in cost and timeline."

The vote takes the state another step away from a contract unsuccessfully pushed by former Gov. Frank Murkowski.

He settled in principle with BP, Exxon Mobil Corp. and ConocoPhillips on fiscal terms -- taxes and royalties -- for producing the North Slope gas.

The deal would have frozen oil taxes for 30 years and gas taxes for up to 45 years for the three major oil companies, but it did not guarantee a pipeline would get built.

The Legislature would not vote on it because many lawmakers believed it was too much of a giveaway to the energy industry, about $10 billion over the lifetime of the deal.

This Legislature, however, acted under AGIA, a year-old law that established bid requirements for those interested in building a pipeline.

It was also a law had BP, ConocoPhillips and Exxon Mobil balking and refusing to submit plan under those guidelines last at the Nov. 30, 2007 deadline.

TransCanada's was one of five applications that applied and the only one deemed compliant under the AGIA guidelines. Meanwhile BP and ConocoPhillips weighed in three months ago their a pipeline project called Denali.

And the two companies have already filed paperwork for preliminary federal permitting and $40 million worth of field work is under way.

But Denali's 12- to 15-page plan is routinely criticized as sorely lacking details compared to TransCanada's itemized offering found in thick three-ring binders.

Some lawmakers believed turning back TransCanada would have left Alaska only with the Denali plan and would set the state back several years.

"I don't want to go back to where I was with the oil companies completely running the show," said Rep. Mike Kelly, a Republican.

"I do not wish to go return to a one-option scenario that has been sold to us with a power-point presentation," he said. "If we turn this down that would be a serious, serious mistake."

What I wanna know is, what happens' to that pipeline if she leaves the Alaskan govornor's office before it's all straightened out? She might wish that she had not left before everything was completed.

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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #453 on: August 31, 2008, 01:59:45 AM »
I've met Sarah Palin in person, she's a nice lady  :)
Put a +1 on your geekness atribute  :aok

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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #454 on: August 31, 2008, 03:05:07 AM »
Actually Frode, just the opposite is true, she is for drilling in ANWR (and apparently so are most of Alaskans). If I irrc that drilling policy also extends to offshore as well.

Actually there are areas she's totally aginst drilling. That post I made before about her stating she didn't support drilling was true. However it was a limited area, some bay (I forget the name). She head butted with Bush over because of the fishing industry which is where the quote I had came from. So that quote I posted before was true it's just wasn't her entire view on the subject which is where I got mislead.

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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #455 on: August 31, 2008, 03:06:54 AM »
Thomas Jefferson wasnt even in the country at the time the first amendment was written.
He was in France.

TJ wrote the letter while he was President explaining to the church about what he believed that 1st amendment meant in regard to separation of church and state. I never said he wrote the 1st amendment. Madison most likely actually wrote the that part of the 1st and he had pretty much the same views as Jefferson on that subject.
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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #456 on: August 31, 2008, 04:13:34 AM »
The marriage of presidential elections and reality TV shows has been consumated.

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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #457 on: August 31, 2008, 04:30:45 AM »

the first couple are pretty up front and honest and..  a few of the liberal weenies are upfront and honest but.. by far the most dishonest are the total liberal weenies on this board who pretend to not be.. the dreds and the morays the ones who claim to be middle of the road but would fit in fine in a san francisco save the illegal aliens parade.


lazs

LMAO Laz You are clueless as to what I am.

But I like what you say because it proves that Im middle of the road.
Liberals I know IRL tell me Im a right winger.
And the very epitome of right wing..you. Call me a liberal.

LMAO
That tells me I probably have it right.

I AM a voice of moderation. because I see that neither side has all the answers. Neither side is right , nor wrong all the time. And I see that each side is made up of total whack jobs who will disagree with the other side simply because it was from the other side. Doesnt matter if it was a good idea or not. the other side had it therefore it must be bad.

And I also see that each side if left to rule unchecked would run amuck and grind us into the ground under their own brand of oppression and ideology.

Laz be honest with yourself.
Admit to what everyone else already knows.
Politically you care about one thing and one thing only above all others.
Guns.
Everything else is just fluff


And just for the record in case you forget.
Im the one that condones Shooting  Illegal aliens.
Oh and I also voted for Bush..twice. Funny how I wasnt labeled a Liberal back then huh.
But I guess because I agreed with you. I was a voice of reason.

Im with you on the second. but its not the entire picture.
And the entire picture is what I vote on.

Im sorry guns as much as I support private ownership of them haven't entered the same near godlike status in my life.

Im more concerned with "promoting the general welfare" of the country. the entire picture.
Not one or two issues. That as I have said before Probably arent going to change anyway.
The Republicans in spite of having the presidency and control of both houses for several years STILL wasnt able to overturn Roe V
Wade.

Im more concerned with promoting the general welfare of the entire country. Not just one or two segments. And not on one or two issues
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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #458 on: August 31, 2008, 04:42:18 AM »
Women with guns  :aok

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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #459 on: August 31, 2008, 06:05:07 AM »
Actually there are areas she's totally aginst drilling. That post I made before about her stating she didn't support drilling was true. However it was a limited area, some bay (I forget the name). She head butted with Bush over because of the fishing industry which is where the quote I had came from. So that quote I posted before was true it's just wasn't her entire view on the subject which is where I got mislead.



I'm not finding anything on that. All the information I've found so far indicates a favorable attitude towards drilling in ANWR and offshore with no mention of areas she considers off limits to drilling.

Fishing is a huge industry in Alaska, virtually all the coastal areas have some sort of fishery, whether it's salmon runs, cod or halibut fishing. Then there is the offshore crabbing industry. The fishing industry would be a concern in most areas of Alaskan waters.
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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #460 on: August 31, 2008, 06:55:49 AM »

But I like what you say because it proves that Im middle of the road.



I AM a voice of moderation.

While I am not passing judgement on you, I don't follow what your post, and to be honest rarely read it, I would like to say that your comments above are the same felt by just about everyone.  If you ask a right wing or left winger, they would say the same about themselves. 

It is my experience that the far left think they are centrists.

I honestly don't know about you, but I am a right winger, I admit it and am proud of it. 
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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #461 on: August 31, 2008, 08:19:18 AM »
you catch on fast  :aok

Tell me, Yeager.  Who am I gonna vote for in the next election?

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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #462 on: August 31, 2008, 08:33:13 AM »
Simple fact...
Sarah Palin is the only one of the Four, who has actually been in an ELECTED DRIVERS SEAT....

McCain, and Biden, have many years in .gov service yes, but YAPPING IN COMMITTEE...

Obama, has neither!!!

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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #463 on: August 31, 2008, 09:15:33 AM »
Here's a bit on Troopergate from the Anchorage Daily News (I still read it quite often).  From an interview with Pailn yesterday:

"Q. Is Troopergate going to hurt your candidacy?

A. No, not when you consider ... I did not pressure commissioner Monegan to hire or fire anybody. And commissioner Monegan confirmed that again today. As he had been confirming all along but I think that had been ignored.

And so, no I'm not worried about that. "

http://www.adn.com/sarahpalin/story/511512.html

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Re: Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?
« Reply #464 on: August 31, 2008, 09:22:41 AM »
Would you consider the following presidents to all have been successful, wise presidents based on their experience as VP?

Truman, Johnson, Nixon, Bush Sr.?

Would you consider them superior to everyone else listed?

-- Todd/Leviathn

T least they had experience when they did become President. Something Obama won't have if hes elected.
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