Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?

[crockett]

I gotta get a copy of that!

Well just so you don't think I'm full of it.. 



Granted she's younger but isn't that just the splitting image or at least close enough for hand grenades..

[SD67]

Is she new to the Biz? I'm only asking because I think I saw someone who looked just like that in one of the many many movies in our collection.

[crockett]

Is she new to the Biz? I'm only asking because I think I saw someone who looked just like that in one of the many many movies in our collection.

Not new just not a big name.

[SD67]

Righto... I'll post an SS to be sure it's the same one later
Definitely has talent from what we've seen

[Fishu]

Cylons!

[moot]

Sounds like there wasn't enough evidence to catch him for what he's reported to have said, only for aggressive speech or action or whatever the charge is.

[DREDIOCK]

"The little-known vice presidential candidate faces accusations of firing public safety commissioner Walt Monegan in what amounts to a messy Palin family drama dating to her pre-gubernatorial days. Monegan had refused to fire a state trooper who had gone through a messy divorce from Palin's sister.

The accuser is blogger and rental car executive Andrew Halcro, a Republican-turned-Independent who lost to Palin in the 2006 governor's race.

The accused is Palin, the rising Republican star with a clean-hands reputation who has the most to lose.

The man in the middle is former commissioner, Monegan, who says Palin never told him to fire the trooper, but he felt pressure to do so from members of her administration.

Then there's trooper Mike Wooten, who used a Taser on his stepson, Palin's nephew Payton. Wooten has been reprimanded for violating nearly a dozen laws and departmental policies since December 2001."
http://www.nj.com/newsflash/index.ssf?/base/politics-17/1220258348127630.xml&storylist=topstories

Didnt need to read any farther then that.
This second incident is a non issue. Even if Palin didnt pressure Monegan to fire him.
Monegan should have not only fired him. But pressed charges.

Entire story is a non issue for me for this election

[moot]

One small time recidivist crooked cop gets half the penalty he ought to have got, all within the allowed range of her gubernatorial powers, and that's supposed to outweigh all the corruption busting she's done? Is that supposed to be some power mongering red flag? Does someone have something in their eyes?

[Saxman]

I'm staying out of the debate on her credentials and what she's done in the past or may do in the future--I don't know much about her as an individual or a politician--but there seems to be a gross misunderstanding on the nature of legal authority. One can still abuse or misuse power, or wield it unethically and inappropriately and still remain within the limits of the law. The law just says you CAN do something. Morality and ethics determine if doing it is RIGHT.

[lazs2]

saxman screamed in red...

"The problem is when the protection of the general welfare and common good goes TOO far and the need for the rights or contributions of the individual are ignored."

It means no more in huge red letters than it meant in tiny little font.. it is an osamabama liberal socialist politician soundbite.

It is meaningless..   It says nothing..  what is "too far" for you is much different than what is too far for me or anyone else.    What are the "rights or contributions of the individuals" to you?   who frigging knows?  you seem to think any tax.. any fee and any law are fine.   

You and dred both do the same thing.. make speeches that sound good but are meaningless.   

We don't need taxes to promote the general welfare except to fund the court and it's enforcement and to protect the borders.

To me.. what you and dred and your pretend centrist ideas have spawned is the reality of today....

Lets say that there is a donut shop and a lowes home supply place in the same strip mall... now, say there are three cop cars at the donut shop parked and... ah.. discussing important police stuff..  50 yards away in plain sight is 30 illegals all milling around and a pickup stops and negotiations begin...

Now.. the cops ignore this... but say..at the same time I ride by on my motorcycle and am not wearing a helmet...  or drive by in a roadster with no seatbelt on... 

What do you think is going to happen?  obviously..  since I am endangering the entire free world and "the common good"   at least on of the police cars will rip on out of the lot with lights blazing and at least one other for "backup" since it is obvious that anyone such as myself who is willing to endanger the free world and urinates on "the common good" is dangerous and.. well..  a source of income and will certainly help with that old quota thing...

Now you tell me what is wrong with that picture.

lazs

[crockett]

Didnt need to read any farther then that.
This second incident is a non issue. Even if Palin didnt pressure Monegan to fire him.
Monegan should have not only fired him. But pressed charges.

Entire story is a non issue for me for this election

At this point it's a he said she said.. Yet you want to knock me for bringing up the info because it doesn't fit what you want to hear. Then you turn around and side with one side because it's what you want to hear.

If it was such and open and shut case, then why is it currently still under investigation?

[lazs2]

but back to Palin...

It is obvious that old Mccain did it again.. sat back and waited and then sprung..  look at this thread...  look at the osamabinbiden threads... this one is a record breaker.. the binbiden one is a yawner.

Her appointment was a masterstroke..  a woman who is conservative to prove that republicans and conservatives and libertarians are honest about gender and race..  we will vote for a woman or a minority but...

not based on the color of their skin or gender.. we will base it on their politics and ideas...

To not vote for some shrill, socialist lesbo or the most liberal senator ever..  does not make you a bigot or a misogenist.

Plus... Who do you want to see hugging and french kissing in the news for the next few months..  Mccain and Palin or the osamabinbiden fruitcakes?

Plus..  when the obligatory pics in october of the osamabinbiden duo come out with them holding the wrong end of a shotgun and wearing safari vests with the tags still on em....

Palin will have one of a dead moose to show and Mccain will have one of him and the staff of the NRA.

NRA gives the osamabinbiden duo a solid "F" rating...

lazs

[DREDIOCK]

saxman screamed in red...

"The problem is when the protection of the general welfare and common good goes TOO far and the need for the rights or contributions of the individual are ignored."

It means no more in huge red letters than it meant in tiny little font.. it is an osamabama liberal socialist politician soundbite.

It is meaningless..   It says nothing..  what is "too far" for you is much different than what is too far for me or anyone else.    What are the "rights or contributions of the individuals" to you?   who frigging knows?  you seem to think any tax.. any fee and any law are fine.   

You and dred both do the same thing.. make speeches that sound good but are meaningless.   

We don't need taxes to promote the general welfare except to fund the court and it's enforcement and to protect the borders.

To me.. what you and dred and your pretend centrist ideas have spawned is the reality of today....

Lets say that there is a donut shop and a lowes home supply place in the same strip mall... now, say there are three cop cars at the donut shop parked and... ah.. discussing important police stuff..  50 yards away in plain sight is 30 illegals all milling around and a pickup stops and negotiations begin...

Now.. the cops ignore this... but say..at the same time I ride by on my motorcycle and am not wearing a helmet...  or drive by in a roadster with no seatbelt on... 

What do you think is going to happen?  obviously..  since I am endangering the entire free world and "the common good"   at least on of the police cars will rip on out of the lot with lights blazing and at least one other for "backup" since it is obvious that anyone such as myself who is willing to endanger the free world and urinates on "the common good" is dangerous and.. well..  a source of income and will certainly help with that old quota thing...

Now you tell me what is wrong with that picture.

lazs

Laz's definition of a "Liberal Weenie" = anyone that he doesnt agree with.

Laz. Your anything but an "individualist" your a right winger. Pure and simple. the only one that doesnt see it..is you.
Which is why anyone who you do not agree with seems like a "libral" to you.

You completely ignore what people say and only pick out what you want and then and I dare say completely fabricate positions for people they dont even take completely forgetting what they may have said over and over again.

In my case specifically. You repeatedly claim I have positions on things I have repeatedly said over the years I do not.
Big differences  between your speeches and mine. Is at least my speeches sound good.
But at least I do not put words into your mouth that you have not said.

I am Pro gun ownership.
anti seat belt and helmet law. Or ANY law designed to protect us from ourselves
Anti illegal immigrant (I dont see how my opinion of shooting illegals can be viewed as be pro illegals. but you go right ahead and keep putting your spin on it)

I never said anything about raising taxes to promote the general welfare either. Yet another item you pulled out of your arse.

The thing that really cracks me up.Is at 2:00 im going to a picnic at someones house whose wife is a card carrying bonifide libral. And Im going to get into the same exact kind of arguments Im having here only from the other side. Just like I always do.
And Im going to be labeled by her a right winger. Just like she always does.

Laz the more you talk about me. The more I realize you dont have a clue about me.
Actually at this point the way you keep spinning peoples words around Im not so sure you have a clue at all anymore

[lazs2]

dred..  you are correct.. your speeches are flowery..  I am correct tho in that they are like a politicians.. sound good but are meaningless.

This is all getting off the Palin issue so I will say..  I will (as usual) just refute your liberal posts in other threads.. or.. you can start a new one and I will be glad to debate you.

I am sorry that you think I don't have a clue and am a right winger... I don't know a lot of right wingers who want to legalize drugs and end the "war on drugs" for instance.

Oh.. go ahead and tell the liberal you will be arguing with (can't imagine what she is like) that I consider you a socialist.. at least I can do that for you.

lazs

[Shuckins]

In my opinion, the angst of the democratic left over the selection of Palin stems from elitist, sanctimonious snobbery:  "How dare they select a woman!  We're the only ones who are supposed to do that!  They're just doing it to embarass Obama and attract Hillary's angry supporters!  Typical Republicans....they picked the wrong kind of woman as well!"