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Offline SEeagle

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Pak 40 AntiTank Setup.
« on: August 29, 2008, 11:57:02 AM »
i would like to see AH put in the Pak 40 anti tank gun.

Development of the PaK 40 began in 1939 with development contracts being placed with Krupp and Rheinmetall to develop a 7.5 cm anti-tank gun. Priority of the project was initially low, but Operation Barbarossa in 1941 and the appearance of heavily armoured Russian tanks like the KV-1, increased the priority. The first guns were delivered in November 1941. By 1943 PaK 40 formed the bulk of the German anti-tank artillery.

The PaK 40 was the standard German anti-tank gun until the end of the war, and was supplied by Germany to its allies. Some captured pieces were used by the Red Army. After the end of the war the PaK 40 remained in service in several European armies, including Albania, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Finland, Hungary and Romania.

About 23,500 pieces were produced, and about 6,000 more were used to arm tank destroyers.

The muzzle velocity was about 790 meters per second


General characteristics
 
German PaK 40 75 mm anti-tank gunCaliber: 75 mm L/48
Rifling: 32 Grooves, right-hand increasing twist, 1/24 to 1/18.
Length with the carriage: 6.2 metres (20.3 ft)
Length: 3.45 metres (11.3 ft)
Width: 2 metres (6.6 ft)
Height: 1.25 metres (4.1 ft)
Weight (combat ready): 1,425 kilograms (3,142 lb)
Traverse: 65°
Elevation: -5° to + 22°
Rate of fire: 14 rounds per minute
Muzzle velocity:
933 metres per second (3,061 ft/s) (Tungsten cored round)
792 metres per second (2,598 ft/s) (Standard armour piercing)
548 metres per second (1,798 ft/s) (HE)
Engagement range: 1,800 metres (5,906 ft)
Indirect range: 7,678 metres (25,190 ft) m (HE shell)
Projectile weight: 3.18 kilograms (7.0 lb) to 6.8 kilograms (15.0 lb)
Armor penetration (at 90 degrees) at 500 metres (1,640 ft):
132 millimetres (5 in) (Standard armour piercing)
154 millimetres (6 in) (Tungsten cored round)

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Re: Pak 40 AntiTank Setup.
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2008, 12:05:41 PM »
I like to see the interest in guns that we can put in towns. I think we really need one on each corner so we can kill LVTS and tank raids. :aokgood idea
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Re: Pak 40 AntiTank Setup.
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2008, 12:07:02 PM »
thats a good idea what you are talking about what im talking about though was have it where we can spawn it like GV's and set it up for tank busting.  :rock
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Re: Pak 40 AntiTank Setup.
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2008, 12:14:27 PM »
For the people wondering how it was moved it was moved two ways.

one it was hooked to the back of Tank's exc.  as shown here.



Then it was also pushed.
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Re: Pak 40 AntiTank Setup.
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2008, 12:21:46 PM »
how do you put a image from your Documents into here?

once i find out how to do this i will put a game graphic of this.
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Re: Pak 40 AntiTank Setup.
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2008, 12:44:20 PM »
Jeep to pull it but make it a perk mode with say 2-3 perks if you lose it :noid
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Re: Pak 40 AntiTank Setup.
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2008, 01:29:58 PM »
i agree on perking it if we get it but more than 3 -4 more like 10 - 20 .

i say this because of its small size its hard to hit. and because it can hide great.
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Re: Pak 40 AntiTank Setup.
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2008, 02:51:29 PM »
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Re: Pak 40 AntiTank Setup.
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2008, 03:07:31 PM »
I would imagine based upon the "shootonce-boom" model that AH2 uses, it would be a very easy target to destroy unless modeled with a very low profile.  But even then...

I think having these guns would be a great idea for static defense.  I say put 3-4 of these on every air base and perhaps 2-3 of them on the vehicle bases.  Oh, and instead of them being portable and in an open topped bunker like the manned ack, have them be in an armored bunker.  Have it so that it takes 250lbs of ord to destroy the bunker (just like the ords, fuel, etc).  It would be much easier to implement that into the game vs a towed AT gun. 
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Re: Pak 40 AntiTank Setup.
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2008, 05:37:40 PM »
I would imagine based upon the "shootonce-boom" model that AH2 uses, it would be a very easy target to destroy unless modeled with a very low profile.  But even then...

I think having these guns would be a great idea for static defense.  I say put 3-4 of these on every air base and perhaps 2-3 of them on the vehicle bases.  Oh, and instead of them being portable and in an open topped bunker like the manned ack, have them be in an armored bunker.  Have it so that it takes 250lbs of ord to destroy the bunker (just like the ords, fuel, etc).  It would be much easier to implement that into the game vs a towed AT gun. 
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Re: Pak 40 AntiTank Setup.
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2008, 05:47:36 PM »
I like it. Could be nice to do something about those damn T-34 base attacks. Its gonna only get worse too after the T-34/85 comes along...
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Re: Pak 40 AntiTank Setup.
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2008, 06:43:34 PM »
I think that towed artillery is an element completely missing from the game, be it anti-tank, anti-aircraft, or field howitzers.

A 75mm could be unperked, as it would have roughly the same capabilities as a Panzer IV.
Perk (slightly) the Pak 43 88mm gun.

The trade off, is that once they're in position and set up, that's it...they're pretty much sitting ducks to any GVs that can get beyond their limited traverse.

Artillery... a US 75mm Pack howitzer, or an M1 105mm gun or 10.5cm leFH 18 (one can be towed by a Jeep, the other by M3), or perk a 155mm US or German 15cm sFH 18. The trade offs, again, are that they're 'soft' targets, have limited ammo, and require protection from GVs and aircraft. All of those things require additional players to support

Anti-aircraft...this is being discussed in another thread...the 37mm need to go, replaced with 40mm Bofor mounts. We also need a medium caliber AA gun to enable players to reach up to 10K+ where the buffs operate. An 88mm again is pefectly suited, no proximity fusing, just pure 'blast radius'. Perk it with a US 90mm AA gun with proximity fusing.

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Re: Pak 40 AntiTank Setup.
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2008, 08:50:36 PM »
I think that towed artillery is an element completely missing from the game, be it anti-tank, anti-aircraft, or field howitzers.

A 75mm could be unperked, as it would have roughly the same capabilities as a Panzer IV.
Perk (slightly) the Pak 43 88mm gun.

The trade off, is that once they're in position and set up, that's it...they're pretty much sitting ducks to any GVs that can get beyond their limited traverse.

Artillery... a US 75mm Pack howitzer, or an M1 105mm gun or 10.5cm leFH 18 (one can be towed by a Jeep, the other by M3), or perk a 155mm US or German 15cm sFH 18. The trade offs, again, are that they're 'soft' targets, have limited ammo, and require protection from GVs and aircraft. All of those things require additional players to support

Anti-aircraft...this is being discussed in another thread...the 37mm need to go, replaced with 40mm Bofor mounts. We also need a medium caliber AA gun to enable players to reach up to 10K+ where the buffs operate. An 88mm again is pefectly suited, no proximity fusing, just pure 'blast radius'. Perk it with a US 90mm AA gun with proximity fusing.

Just my opinion...

J


i agree with you on those things also. maybe a 250 lb bunker would be best idea.
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Re: Pak 40 AntiTank Setup.
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2008, 09:53:46 PM »
The only issue I have with a bunker, is that its a permanent structure.

Towed artillery would allow you to move ord into a secure position and lob artillery onto a town.

I've defended and attacked a few bases that have sat at the foot of high hills. Imagine setting up a 105 and throwing shells down onto a town or base, with GVs trying to cover air attacks and armor attacks.

That'd be cool...

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Re: Pak 40 AntiTank Setup.
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2008, 10:10:33 PM »
i think we all agree though that this needs to be added and that we have given all the information that is needed. i tried to cover every bit of info i could on the first post.

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