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Offline wrag

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Re: We NEED the 109G10!
« Reply #60 on: October 06, 2008, 01:20:09 PM »
Oh lordy, not again, Wrag!

Yep and you already know what I'm gonna say cause we already been through it.

Hey how about before you post this time you TEST out what I've posted and see if it's different for you?

Take a g14 up to at least 16K (higher would be better) and fight someone, and see how it preforms then a G6 then a K4.

Maybe even try a G6 against a G14 at HIGH alt or visa versa and see what you get?

Showing your charts and diagrams and such is nice but I've found planes preformance in AceHigh verses your charts diagrams and such don't always SEEM to match.

Thank You.
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Re: We NEED the 109G10!
« Reply #61 on: October 06, 2008, 02:06:00 PM »
In that case a 109G-6/AS is what you're looking for. :aok

Yea a G5, G6, or G14/AS would bee nice.

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Re: We NEED the 109G10!
« Reply #62 on: October 06, 2008, 02:12:47 PM »
An earlier Fw190 would be nice too.

190 A-3 would be AMAZING!!!  :O

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Re: We NEED the 109G10!
« Reply #63 on: October 06, 2008, 02:13:29 PM »
190 A-3 would be AMAZING!!!  :O

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Re: We NEED the 109G10!
« Reply #64 on: October 06, 2008, 02:16:05 PM »
190 D-13. :O
No, thanks. 190A3 would be nice for an early war 190... D13 not so much.

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Re: We NEED the 109G10!
« Reply #65 on: October 06, 2008, 02:17:39 PM »
No, thanks. 190A3 would be nice for an early war 190... D13 not so much.
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Re: We NEED the 109G10!
« Reply #66 on: October 06, 2008, 02:20:02 PM »
Oh well they.
There is no way you could possibly interpret that as a coherent sentence.

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Re: We NEED the 109G10!
« Reply #67 on: October 06, 2008, 02:20:52 PM »
There is no way you could possibly interpret that as a coherent sentence.
Don't feel like it anyway G-10 would be great to have.
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Re: We NEED the 109G10!
« Reply #68 on: October 06, 2008, 02:25:22 PM »
There is no way you could possibly interpret that as a coherent sentence.

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Re: We NEED the 109G10!
« Reply #69 on: October 06, 2008, 02:26:00 PM »
:rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl    :O  :O  :O

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Re: We NEED the 109G10!
« Reply #70 on: October 06, 2008, 03:12:46 PM »
Take a g14 up to at least 16K (higher would be better) and fight someone, and see how it preforms then a G6 then a K4.

Maybe even try a G6 against a G14 at HIGH alt or visa versa and see what you get?

Showing your charts and diagrams and such is nice but I've found planes preformance in AceHigh verses your charts diagrams and such don't always SEEM to match.

Thank You.

I have done those things. To me the G-6 seems the WORST of all G-models. It's the underdog always in my book, which is why I sometimes like flying it (flying the underdog). The G-14 is more responsive to me and better able to dogfight than the G-6, which simply seems to bleed E a little more and is a little more sluggish. The K-4 is a different beast, to be sure, but at 16k and below I find the G-14 a better plane than the K-4. Even if I have the same weapons package (1x30mm) I find the G-14 a bit easier to pull hard Gs in. The K-4 is nice, sure, but it seems that other than slightly better climb rate the G-14 "feels" better. When the G14 came out I flew it a lot and predicted it'd be the best of the Gs now. I think it is. Now, that's not counting loading it down with gondolas or rockets and a drop tank that you forget to jetison or anything like that.

Up high I've done my fair share of being ganged by US late war rides in FSO and scenarios. I have a fair understanding of how it performs at alt. That said, as far as practical gameplay, I can get maybe 4 kills with 200 rds of 20mm nose cannon, but maybe 6-10 with 60 rds of 30mm nose cannon. I landed 8 in a G-14 but many of these were B26s and B17s that soaked up ammo.

Your taste for weaponry is your own, but you can't call the Mk108 crappy because you don't like it (your words: "that STOOOOOPID 30mm."). The "old" G10 had rockets and gondolas... but so did the F-4. Did you check up on whether the G-10s ever used them, or not? Much like the K-4 (its contemporary!) chances are it didn't have any wing-mounted armaments.

While I can sympathize with not liking the armaments, them's the breaks. I'd love the MG151/20 on the 262 (one variant carried 2 of them, as well as 2 Mk108s and 2 Mk103s). I personally wouldn't mind a 20mm on the K-4 as long as the gondies and rockets are left off. That would be a minor concession for the G10 crowd. However, HTC seems to be going the way of accurate representation now, and I think you may be better off petitioning for a G6/AS or a G5 or G14/AS: Something that does what you want but fills a hole that the G10 doesn't fill.

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Re: We NEED the 109G10!
« Reply #71 on: October 06, 2008, 03:29:42 PM »
Krusty, I took the G6 up once one day, first time i've TOUCHED a 109 in about 4 months. Got 6 kills in a massive furball, all turn fights, just the single 20mm. I'm used to the F4, and the G6, somehow, seemed just the same as it, minus a small bit of turning capabilities.
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