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Re: Palins say teen daughter is pregnant
« Reply #105 on: September 01, 2008, 05:49:49 PM »
The only group that I see may change there minds about voting for the Republicans on this issue may be the ultra religious.

I doubt that since it looks like they are getting married. now if they weren't then it might have an effect those voters.

No word on what kind of shotgun she's gonna following them down the aisle with???
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Re: Palins say teen daughter is pregnant
« Reply #106 on: September 01, 2008, 06:00:24 PM »
I doubt that since it looks like they are getting married. now if they weren't then it might have an effect those voters.

No word on what kind of shotgun she's gonna following them down the aisle with???

One of those real nice side by side coach guns. She bought it at one of those unregulated gun shows.
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Re: Palins say teen daughter is pregnant
« Reply #107 on: September 01, 2008, 06:07:40 PM »
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The very fact that her own daughter got pregnant out of wedlock just screams that teaching abstinence only DOES NOT WORK


I beg to difer. I went to a private high school where abstinence was taught. During my time there not one girl ended up pregnant. The church my mom drug us to every sunday morning also taught abstinence and yet not one girl ended up pregnant during the 12 or so years we went there. Abstinence does work for those that adhere to it. It is incredibly difficult to become pregnant if you never have sex. ;)
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Re: Palins say teen daughter is pregnant
« Reply #108 on: September 01, 2008, 06:16:42 PM »
Welp, here are a few facts I ran across a couple of weeks back that deal with teenage pregnancy.

Prior to the 1960s, the rate of illegitimate pregnancies for unmarried black girls was around 20%, while the rate for white girls of the same age was in the low single digits.

Enter the sexual revolution, with its notions of free sex, free love, sex education, free condoms, and contempt for the old moral beliefs and sexual mores.  Sex is everywhere, in books, magazines, radio, tv, and popular novels.  Our kids are inundated with it.  End result, pregnancy rates for unwed teenage girls have skyrocketed:  the 20% rate for unwed black girls is now at 70%, and that of unwed white girls is at 20%.

Crockett, while you may laugh at the teaching of abstinence, it at least harkens back to a time when such religious based sexual behaviors actually worked.  The more "modern" approach that you advocate has been an unmitigated disaster.

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Re: Palins say teen daughter is pregnant
« Reply #109 on: September 01, 2008, 06:17:40 PM »
It is incredibly difficult to become pregnant if you never have sex. ;)

There was that one "Mary" girl...

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Re: Palins say teen daughter is pregnant
« Reply #110 on: September 01, 2008, 06:28:31 PM »
numbers, i need numbers not opinions

This is what I've found.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0193727.html

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr56/nvsr56_06.pdf

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Birth ratesforteenagersvaryconsider ablybystate(Tables11
and B), butwhenmapped,adistinctpatternbecomesevident
(Figure 6). Birthratesforteenagerstendtob elowestintheNorth
and Northeast,andhighestintheSouthandSouthwest.These
spatial patternsarelargelyareflection ofeachstate’sraceand
Hispanic origincomposition.

Southern states seem to have higher birth rates than northern ones. That could be a function of ethnic population distribution though.

http://www.statehealthfacts.org/comparemaptable.jsp?ind=37&cat=2

I can't find one single reference to back up Crockett's previous statement about the lower population more religious area's have the highest birth rates among teens. In fact, religion isn't mentioned at all, and neither is population density.
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Re: Palins say teen daughter is pregnant
« Reply #111 on: September 01, 2008, 06:29:57 PM »
There was that one "Mary" girl...

Very true, however, that was a divine act and a miracle.  :rock
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Re: Palins say teen daughter is pregnant
« Reply #112 on: September 01, 2008, 06:48:51 PM »
Very true, however, that was a divine act and a miracle.  :rock
or just and old astrological story.

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Re: Palins say teen daughter is pregnant
« Reply #113 on: September 01, 2008, 06:52:35 PM »
So if you guys can't admit is freaking ironic

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First she was a hypocrite until you were shown you don't really know what that means, then she was wrong until you were shown that because a child doesn't follow a teaching it does not intrinsically mean the teaching is wrong and now it is ironic.

Would it have been ironic if Palin was in full support of explicit sex ed in the schools and this child got pregnant? There's your test. If you can flip it to the other side of your argument and it would still be true you have a case.

So, direct question to you:  Would it have been ironic if Palin was in full support of explicit sex ed in the schools and this child got pregnant?
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Re: Palins say teen daughter is pregnant
« Reply #114 on: September 01, 2008, 06:56:29 PM »

The very fact that her own daughter got pregnant out of wedlock just screams that teaching abstinence only DOES NOT WORK.

Does the fact that daughters get pregnant after going through explicit school programs on sex education scream that teaching explicit sex ed in schools DOES NOT WORK?

You're not putting your best foot forward here.

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Re: Palins say teen daughter is pregnant
« Reply #115 on: September 01, 2008, 06:57:50 PM »
The very fact that her own daughter got pregnant out of wedlock just screams that teaching abstinence only DOES NOT WORK.


NEITHER DOES SEX-ED! 

So let's not teach anything about the subject and leave it up the parents to teach the kids.

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« Reply #116 on: September 01, 2008, 07:00:20 PM »
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Stay tuned for As The Liberal Turns.....

I lol'd at that one.  :lol
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Re: Palins say teen daughter is pregnant
« Reply #117 on: September 01, 2008, 07:01:54 PM »
:lol funny but he don't pay me.. I'd bash the women over this even if I was a McCain supporter. I can't stand when these Religious Right politicians try to push their "views" on everyone else using their power as politicians and I love it when their preaching blows up in their face.

ahhhhhhhhhhhhh.. but he does pay you. Yer a porn dealer.. you owe your existence to 'the party'. I can understand your prurient 'interest' tho.. I wonder how many smut films you sell have the word 'teen' in their meta tags?

Next... got any links on her preaching a holier-than-thou agenda? Last I checked, this is the 'religious right politician' that granted gays and lesbians equal protection under the law. Sounds real preachy to me.

Now, what in hell are you still doing here? Dontcha have a hershey highway screen epic to film? I mean when yer not otherwise engaged in muck raking for jack-ass party?


I can't find one single reference to back up Crockett's previous statement about the lower population more religious area's have the highest birth rates among teens. In fact, religion isn't mentioned at all, and neither is population density.

Not to worry.. he's likely got the actual act of pulling this outta some other liberal bellybutton documented on film.
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Re: Palins say teen daughter is pregnant
« Reply #118 on: September 01, 2008, 07:03:55 PM »
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So let's not teach anything about the subject and leave it up the parents to teach the kids.

That's exactly where it should be taught. My wife has already had the *talk* with our oldest daughter, she knows how babies are made and how to prevent them. We'll see how she turns out.

My son was living with his mother and went through sex-ed classes, he got a girl pregnant while still a teen. (No one had the *talk* with him, it was left to the sex-ed classes)
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Re: Palins say teen daughter is pregnant
« Reply #119 on: September 01, 2008, 07:04:09 PM »
Looks as if Governor Palin has some new issues to deal with now.   http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/cvn_palin_troopergate