Palins say teen daughter is pregnant

[Serenity]

So she chose to get preggers?  I seriously doubt that.   Come on, the politician parent stresses abstinence-only sex-ed and her kid gets pregnant.  You don't see the irony in that?  What if Bristol or her boyfriend happened to have a condom handy, don't you think there'd be one less pregnant minor in Alaska right now?

I see the irony in it, but, um, do you REALLY think the lack of sex-ed in schools was the reason for it? Just because you don't sit through a 6-month class on what a contraceptive is doesn't mean you don't get the concept of "use a condom or get pregnant". With T.V. and the internet, 5-year-olds get the concept of brith control. Also worth noting is the fact that condoms AND the pill have been proven to be 97% effective. Whose to say this wasn't that extra 3%? Or, did the condom break? Trust me, it DOES happen, (And some brands have a tendency for it it seems...). They havn't published a press release on the nature of the intercourse leading to this, and I hope to god they do not, so we REALLY cannot say that it was this lack of sex-ed that led to this.

[Elfie]

Ummm, by her family being an example for the world to see that "abstinence-only" sex-ed, which she supports, doesn't work. 

If abstinence is followed, it most certainly does work and is the only fool-proof form of birth control out there.

So she chose to get preggers?  I seriously doubt that.   Come on, the politician parent stresses abstinence-only sex-ed and her kid gets pregnant.  You don't see the irony in that?  What if Bristol or her boyfriend happened to have a condom handy, don't you think there'd be one less pregnant minor in Alaska right now?

She chose to have unprotected sex. She knew the risks and took them anyways. Her choice, now she is dealing with the consequences. No I don't see irony in that. It was choices that she made, choices that were contrary to what she had been taught by her parents that put her in the situation she is in now.

If they had wanted them, they could have purchased condoms at any drug store. Again, they chose to not do so. They made irresponsible decisions.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

You don't REALLY think they couldn't get a condom, do you?

Children of great parents do not ALWAYS toe the line. No one is perfect.

Anyone who is stupid enough to think sex education prevents pregnancy is stupid enough to think nutrition information on food prevents obesity. Handing out free condoms doesn't do it either. Just like giving junkies free clean needles doesn't stop Hepatitis or AIDS.

Face facts. No teenager with an IQ above 80 is so unaware as to not know that unprotected sex can lead to pregnancy and STDs. The truth is that teenagers believe "it is not going to happen to me". THAT is how it happens. Anyone who thinks otherwise is only fooling themselves.

[Elfie]

do you REALLY think the lack of sex-ed in schools was the reason for it?

I didn't go through sex-ed class and I never ended up getting anyone pregnant during school.

[Motherland]

If abstinence is followed, it most certainly does work and is the only fool-proof form of birth control out there.

Obviously.... the problem is, abstinence only education, which Palin supports, obviously does not work. I mean, if there was a case where it was going to, it would have been here.

[Elfie]

You don't REALLY think they couldn't get a condom, do you?

Children of great parents do not ALWAYS toe the line. No one is perfect.

Anyone who is stupid enough to think sex education prevents pregnancy is stupid enough to think nutrition information on food prevents obesity. Handing out free condoms doesn't do it either. Just like giving junkies free clean needles doesn't stop Hepatitis or AIDS.

Face facts. No teenager with an IQ above 80 is so unaware as to not know that unprotected sex can lead to pregnancy and STDs. The truth is that teenagers believe "it is not going to happen to me". THAT is how it happens. Anyone who thinks otherwise is only fooling themselves.

Well said. 

[Serenity]

I didn't go through sex-ed class and I never ended up getting anyone pregnant during school.

Exactly!

[Elfie]

Obviously.... the problem is, abstinence only education, which Palin supports, obviously does not work. I mean, if there was a case where it was going to, it would have been here.

It doesn't work because people give in to a very strong temptation.

[Toad]

11. Are you offended by the phrase “Under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not?

Sarah Palin: Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I’ll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance.

Excerpts from the Declaration of Independence:

"the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them"

"that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"

"appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions"

"And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, "

I think it is pretty easy to see that the Founders did indeed put this nation "under God". Endowed, appealing and protection leave no other possible explanation except that the Founders felt there was a higher power over this nation and their work.

If one takes an objective view, there's nothing wrong with Palin's statement.

[Toad]

Neither abstinence only nor explicit sex ed work. Or hadn't you noticed there a hell of a lot of unwed and/or teen mothers out there?

Does sex ed in the schools coupled with free condoms or birth control pills stop teen pregnancy? Obviously not.
Does abstinence only education stop teen pregnancy? Obviously not.

You guys are arguing like morons.

[Elfie]

Neither abstinence only nor explicit sex ed work. Or hadn't you noticed there a hell of a lot of unwed and/or teen mothers out there?

Does sex ed in the schools coupled with free condoms or birth control pills stop teen pregnancy? Obviously not.
Does abstinence only education stop teen pregnancy? Obviously not.

You guys are arguing like morons.

No education program is fool proof simply because kids *know it all*. Even the combined life experiences of their teachers and parents are trumped by the kids grand knowledge of all things.

[crockett]

Obviously.... the problem is, abstinence only education, which Palin supports, obviously does not work. I mean, if there was a case where it was going to, it would have been here.

Ding! Ding! and now here we have the winner. The entire reason this is a big deal is because of this very fact right here.

[Yeager]

Excellent, I love the way the Palin family is handling this.  

Obama made a perfect statement regarding family being off limits as well.  He has two young daughters, he knows whats at stake.

[Hangtime]

Ding! Ding! and now here we have the winner. The entire reason this is a big deal is because of this very fact right here.

LOL.. porn-boy; lemme guess... if a sock could get pregnant, you'd be a puppet daddy of about a million?

[Elfie]

LOL.. porn-boy; lemme guess... if a sock could get pregnant, you'd be a puppet daddy of about a million?

I don't care who you are.....that is darn funny.