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Offline Hap

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Re: See Anybody Special??
« Reply #615 on: October 25, 2008, 08:46:57 AM »
I with Hungry.  Leslie Howard.

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Re: See Anybody Special??
« Reply #616 on: October 25, 2008, 09:26:07 AM »
I with Hungry.  Leslie Howard.

If it is here's a piece of trivia, he was lost in the same plane as a Glenn Miller over the english channel I think.
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Re: See Anybody Special??
« Reply #617 on: October 25, 2008, 10:12:37 PM »
If it is here's a piece of trivia, he was lost in the same plane as a Glenn Miller over the english channel I think.
Not the English Channel, but close enough.

Yep, Leslie Howard :aok



He is best known by international audiences as Ashley Wilkes in the film Gone with the Wind
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Leslie Howard (April 3, 1893 - June 1, 1943) was an English stage and Academy Award nominated film actor. He is best known by international audiences as Ashley Wilkes in the film Gone with the Wind. He was an accomplished actor whose film roles included Professor Higgins in George Bernard Shaw's Pygmalion (1938), The Petrified Forest (1936) and Intermezzo (1939). Howard died in 1943 when he was returning to England from Lisbon on KLM Royal Dutch Airlines/BOAC Flight 777. The aircraft was shot down by a German Junkers Ju 88 over the Bay of Biscay. It has been rumoured that Howard was engaged in secret war work at the time, and that the Germans believed the Prime Minister, Winston Churchill, who had been in Algiers, to be on board. Howard's manager, Alfred Chenhalls, physically resembled Churchill, while Howard was tall and thin, like Churchill's bodyguard, Walter H. Thompson. However, this story has been completely discredited. Churchill himself seems to have been to blame for the spread of it; in his autobiography, he expresses sorrow that a mistake about his activities might have cost Howard his life. The truth, revealed in several exhaustively detailed books such as Bloody Biscay (which comes to a slightly different conclusion), Flight 777 by Ian Colvin, and In Search of My Father by Howard's actor son Ronald, is that the Germans were almost certainly out to shoot down the plane in order to kill Howard himself. His intelligence-gathering activities (while ostensibly on "entertainer goodwill" tours), as well as the chance to demoralise Britain with the loss of one of its most outspokenly patriotic figures, were behind the Luftwaffe attack. Ronald Howard's book, in particular, explores in great detail written German orders to the Staffel assigned to intercept the airliner, as well as communiques on the British side which verify intelligence reports of the time indicating a deliberate attack on Howard. It also makes clear that the Germans were well aware of Churchill's whereabouts at the time and were not so naïve as to believe the British Prime Minister would be traveling alone aboard an unescorted and unarmed civilian airliner when both the secrecy and air power of the British government were at his command. Howard was traveling through Spain and Portugal, ostensibly lecturing on film, but also meeting with local propagandists and shoring up support for the Allied cause. The Germans in all probability suspected even more surreptitious activities. (German agents were active throughout Spain and Portugal, which, like Switzerland, was a crossroads for persons from both sides of the conflict, but even more accessible to Allied citizens.) A book by Spanish writer José Rey-Ximena called 'El Vuelo del Ibis' ('The Flight of the Ibis') claims that Howard was on a top secret mission for Churchill to warn Franco to keep out of the war. Howard had contacts with Ricardo Gimenez-Arnau, head of Spains Foreign Office via an old girlfriend, Conchita Montenegro.

Ronald Howard, Leslie's son, was of the conviction that the orders to liquidate Leslie came from Goebbels, who had been ridiculed in one of Howard's films and who believed Howard to be the most dangerous propagandist in the British service.

Howard was flying from Portela (Lisbon), Portugal back home to England on a regularly scheduled flight that did not pass over what would commonly be referred to as a war zone. The Luftwaffe records indicate that the Staffel was sent beyond its normal patrol area to intercept and shoot down the airliner, even though this flight had never before been disrupted. There were about fourteen other passengers, most of them either British executives with corporate ties in Portugal, or various British comparatively lower echelon government functionaries. There were also two or three children, the offspring of British military personnel. The DC-3 was attacked by eight German JU-88s, despite the fact that Luftwaffe patrols in the nearest normal vicinity usually consisted of single planes. According to German documents, the plane was shot down at longitude 10.15 West, latitude 46.07 North, some 500 miles (800 km) from Bordeaux, France. (The DC-3's last radio message indicated it was being fired upon at longitude 09.37 West, latitude 46.54 North.) The German pilots photographed the wreckage floating in the Bay of Biscay. After the war, copies of these captured photos were sent to Howard's family.

Christopher Goss's book Bloody Biscay, however, quotes Oberleutnant Herbert Hintze, Staffel Führer of 14 Staffel, based in Bordeaux, France, as remarking that his Staffel shot down the DC-3 merely because the plane was recognised as an enemy aircraft, unaware that it was an unarmed civilian plane. Hintze states that his fellow Staffel pilots were angry that the Luftwaffe had not informed them of a scheduled flight between Lisbon and the UK, and that had they known, they could easily have escorted the plane to Bordeaux and captured it and all aboard.  More recently, Spanish author Jose Rey-Ximena has claimed in a book that the actor's plane was shot down as he was returning to England from a secret mission ordered by then-Prime Minister Winston Churchill, to dissuade Franco from joining the war with Hitler and Mussolini.

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Re: See Anybody Special??
« Reply #618 on: October 26, 2008, 11:43:21 PM »
Played R.J. Mitchell in "First of the Few."
Hey Old Sport, had to go check on that one. Yep, Howard starred in and directed "First of the Few". WTG :aok
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Re: See Anybody Special??
« Reply #619 on: October 27, 2008, 09:38:40 AM »
Hey Old Sport, had to go check on that one. Yep, Howard starred in and directed "First of the Few". WTG :aok

 :D

And who was R.J. Mitchell if not designer of the Spitfire?
(i.e. relevant to "Aircraft and Vehicles")

Nice thread by the way :aok

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Re: See Anybody Special??
« Reply #620 on: October 27, 2008, 10:03:39 AM »
:D

And who was R.J. Mitchell if not designer of the Spitfire?
(i.e. relevant to "Aircraft and Vehicles")

Nice thread by the way :aok
Thanks :salute

Guessing most of us are familiar with Mitchell, but I'd never heard of that movie. I'll have to check it out.

Btw, relevancy bothered me at first, but since the thread is WWII related, this seemed to be the least inappropriate forum. Guessing Skuzzy would have taken his admin broom to the thread by now if it wasn't.
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Re: See Anybody Special??
« Reply #621 on: October 28, 2008, 09:13:29 AM »
And we're back:
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Re: See Anybody Special??
« Reply #622 on: October 28, 2008, 11:08:14 AM »
Group Captain Lionel Mandrake
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Re: See Anybody Special??
« Reply #623 on: October 28, 2008, 11:11:17 AM »
Dr. Strangelove

Yep :aok, Peter Sellers
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Dr. Strangelove:


During World War II, Sellers was an airman in the Royal Air Force, rising to corporal, though he had been relegated to ground staff due to poor eyesight. His tour included India and Burma, although the duration of his stay in Asia is unknown, and he may have exaggerated its length. He also served in Germany and France after the war. As a distraction from the life of a non-commissioned officer, Sellers joined the Entertainments National Service Association (ENSA), allowing him to hone his drumming and comedy. He occasionally impersonated his superiors, and his portrayal of RAF officer Lionel Mandrake in the film Dr. Strangelove may have been modelled on them. He bluffed his way into the Officers Club using mimicry and the occasional false moustache, although as he told Michael Parkinson in the 1972 interview, occasionally older officers would suspect him. The voice of Goon Show character Major Dennis Bloodnok came from this period.

And who can forget this scene from Dr Strangelove :D


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Re: See Anybody Special??
« Reply #624 on: October 28, 2008, 11:14:53 AM »
The eyes gave him away.
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Re: See Anybody Special??
« Reply #625 on: October 28, 2008, 11:27:40 AM »
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Re: See Anybody Special??
« Reply #626 on: October 28, 2008, 01:04:07 PM »
Group Captain Lionel Mandrake

I bet you're some kind of deviated prevert :lol

(yes, this is Keenan Wynn. Not our next mystery guy :) )

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Re: See Anybody Special??
« Reply #627 on: October 28, 2008, 04:54:44 PM »
Hint time: actor
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Re: See Anybody Special??
« Reply #628 on: October 28, 2008, 06:46:21 PM »
Tough one--really small picture.

Dick VanDyke?
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Re: See Anybody Special??
« Reply #629 on: October 28, 2008, 07:29:51 PM »
Had to put my glasses on but it allmost looks like Ernie Kovacs?
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