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Offline Yenny

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Re: Main arean tours
« Reply #45 on: September 05, 2008, 03:44:52 PM »
I love the 190. We all know that, how do I put the 190 to make the best out of it. BnZ, so that's what I'm going to do. I'm not going to let some spit, f4u, tempest flyers tell me how to fly my 190 =)
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Re: Main arean tours
« Reply #46 on: September 05, 2008, 03:54:17 PM »
We're not going to tell you how to fly it, thats up to you.

We are going to mercilessly ridicule you if you fly timid and only engage with the advantage(s).
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Offline Yenny

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Re: Main arean tours
« Reply #47 on: September 05, 2008, 04:01:33 PM »
^_^ to get a 11-12 kph ratio, you can't be that timid. 190 are like an oppertunist. We strike hard and fast. I rarely fly above 8k, usually sitting around 5-7k once I arrived to the furball area and ID all the higher baddies to keep an eye on them. SA is key for 190 though. To be a good BnZmer you gotta take advantage of your speed, and SA. Though most important of all, you gotta be able to hit and kill your target almost every time.

BnZ works in just about any plane, it just TnB planes are capable of doing better, except they just got a fewer rounds, and a bit slower and doesn't handle well at high speed (that's needed for the oppertunity kills when target just hanging ontop of a rope 2k under ya etc). The advantage the TnB plane got is that they can go TnB almost at will and do fine vs just about any other planes. Where a 190 or tiff would have a hard time fighting it off if he gets caught by another tnb plane.Unless you're a 38, them things are sick for bnzming and tnbing. Fast climb rate, good gun package, handles pretty good at 400 knts.

I bet you that most of the good bnzmer have a higher kph ratio then most of the tnber. It really doesn't matter what plane they fly, spit or 190 or p-51. Well it does kinda,  BnZ in a TnB plane such as a spit or a 38 would usually have a higher kill per hour. Only because if you do miss a pass, you can chop throttle coming back down right away rather then extend to regain your E and come back down.

Example:
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BnZmer:
Yenny (Fighter Mode): Kills per Hour of Flight 11.12
                               Kills Hit Percentage 15.67 
Yenny (Attack Mode): Kills per Hour of Flight 8.60
                               Kills Hit Percentage 18.66
Bruv119 (Fighter Mode): Kills per Hour of Flight 15.55                     (wtf? stop hovering over capped base =D )
                                 Kills Hit Percentage 18.43
Bruv119 (Attack Mode): Kills per Hour of Flight 12.49 
                                 Kills Hit Percentage 36.13 
Steve (Fighter Mode): Kills per Hour of Flight 10.19 
                               Kills Hit Percentage 12.84
Steve (Attack Mode): Kills per Hour of Flight 12.92 
                              Kills Hit Percentage 14.29
Delirium (Fighter Mode): Kills per Hour of Flight 17.35               (You too Del!)
                                 Kills Hit Percentage 16.08
Delirium (Attack Mode):  Kills per Hour of Flight 14.69
                                  Kills Hit Percentage 16.50


Now for the TnB people:
SEBongo (Fighter Mode): Kills per Hour of Flight 4.61
                                  Kills Hit Percentage 9.24
SEBongo (Attack Mode): Kills per Hour of Flight 2.70 
                                  Kills Hit Percentage 84.73
SkyRock (Fighter Mode): Kills per Hour of Flight 7.60
                                  Kills Hit Percentage 6.70
SkyRock (Attack Mode): Kills per Hour of Flight 10.22
                                  Kills Hit Percentage 9.12
420Ace (Fighter Mode): Kills per Hour of Flight 4.61 
                                 Kills Hit Percentage 5.09
420Ace (Attack Mode):  Kills per Hour of Flight 5.87
                                 Kills Hit Percentage 11.97 



 






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Re: Main arean tours
« Reply #48 on: September 06, 2008, 10:51:30 AM »
The past two or three tours are not a good example for me.  I don't really care to look but I will tell you that I was playing less and my aim was suffering a  lot.  I had an antivirus program hogging the system resources.  At first it wasn't so bad but eventually my fps was dropping between 1-10 in almost all engagements.

FSO last night was fun.  I reformatted my hard drive and had a clean machine running 70-75 fps.  Was a refreshing change.

You say you rarely fly above 8, but when I see you in a 190 its never co-alt or lower and I fly at about 10k to the deck.

I also don't know why your trying to give me a lesson in Ganging in BnZ from alt.  Anyone can do that.  I have perched in the p38 if the enemy is numerous and low.  Do you want a lesson in TnB typed out for you?

I have wasted too much of my life arguing stupid points over a silly internet video game. 

You see it different, we'll keep making fun of each other, and end of story?

-edit- actually took the time to look at the stats.  wonder why my attack shooting was better.  i usually don't pay attention to what mode is set but I think the p38j and l were set to that.  maybe the ki84 too, i dunno.
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Re: Main arean tours
« Reply #49 on: September 06, 2008, 11:31:22 AM »
I also don't know why your trying to give me a lesson in Ganging in BnZ from alt.  Anyone can do that.

This statement is curious because the normal order of learning for new pilots is to turn-n-burn first, then branch out into other forms of combat.  What's more, the vast majority of 51s and 190s that I see trying to BNZ are terrible at it.  They approach from your high 12 o'clock and dive straight in for a low % shot, rather than allowing the bandit to go underneath while executing a lag-pursuit split-s type maneuver.
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Offline Yenny

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Re: Main arean tours
« Reply #50 on: September 06, 2008, 11:35:19 AM »
 

Do you want a lesson in TnB typed out for you?


You'd be suprise but most of us BnZmer are pretty good in TnB. We might not be as good as Texture or SkyRock etc, but we will put an above average TnBner down in flame. The reason we don't TnB a lot is because of the aircraft we fly r not good for it, so we just try to avoid it when we can. ^_^ we spent our time in DA and TA work on TnB when we're not in MA!
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Re: Main arean tours
« Reply #51 on: September 06, 2008, 11:44:37 AM »
to get a 11-12 kph ratio, you can't be that timid.
:rofl   not true   some of the most timid, have high k/t :aok

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Re: Main arean tours
« Reply #52 on: September 06, 2008, 11:56:51 AM »
'tis true indeed
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Re: Main arean tours
« Reply #53 on: September 06, 2008, 12:29:38 PM »
I think the differant times answer only accounts for part of the answer..  The other part is number one ranked player are not going to be at the same location as you when they are online at the same time...   You just not statistically going to see them in the furball... So in short differant playing style has a lot to do with it.  Id be willing to bet you store memories based on if you kill or are killed by said player not on seeing victories landed.....

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Re: Main arean tours
« Reply #54 on: September 06, 2008, 12:42:11 PM »
:rofl   not true   some of the most timid, have high k/t :aok


how does this happen? When I've looked at the K/T of the orbiters... they are usually around... 2. 5. per hour.
Furballers usually have good K/t because they fight, get a few kills, and usually stick around til they die... having a blast the whole time, no doubt. One reason their K/T is helped is that they don't hurt it with rtb time.   :aok
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Re: Main arean tours
« Reply #55 on: September 06, 2008, 12:44:18 PM »
Question:  What is the formula for how K/D, K/S, K/T, Hit% and kill points give a pilot a fighter rank?  I've looked on the website, but the only formulaic explanation I see is for perk points.  It seems that K/T is one of the most heavily weighted stats, which actually means the people who play it safe and land their sorties are hardly "score toads."
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Re: Main arean tours
« Reply #56 on: September 06, 2008, 12:54:03 PM »

how does this happen? When I've looked at the K/T of the orbiters... they are usually around... 2. 5. per hour.
Furballers usually have good K/t because they fight, get a few kills, and usually stick around til they die... having a blast the whole time, no doubt. One reason their K/T is helped is that they don't hurt it with rtb time.   :aok
they have it down to a science with checking teh dar of an area then upping just above furball alt and cherrying all things below.  If you work it just right, you can get 15 and hour and not one of them be a fight, all cherries with easy hit% to boot.  mix that in with keeping eye out for vulchs as they unffold, and you then become bruv. :aok

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Re: Main arean tours
« Reply #57 on: September 06, 2008, 01:00:46 PM »

You'd be suprise but most of us BnZmer are pretty good in TnB. We might not be as good as Texture or SkyRock etc, but we will put an above average TnBner down in flame.

 :rofl     You would first have to be "good", correct?   I can name at least 100 folks who are better than you.   

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Re: Main arean tours
« Reply #58 on: September 06, 2008, 01:01:43 PM »
Question:  What is the formula for how K/D, K/S, K/T, Hit% and kill points give a pilot a fighter rank?  I've looked on the website, but the only formulaic explanation I see is for perk points.  It seems that K/T is one of the most heavily weighted stats, which actually means the people who play it safe and land their sorties are hardly "score toads."

Each individual stat is ranked from low to high.  Ties are ties but, if two people are tied at say #4, then the next ranked person is #6.  Overall fighter (or any category for that matter) is the sum total of individual stat ranks with the lowest number being the highest ranked.  Each individual stat weighs equally.
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Re: Main arean tours
« Reply #59 on: September 06, 2008, 01:09:44 PM »
they have it down to a science with checking teh dar of an area then upping just above furball alt and cherrying all things below.  If you work it just right, you can get 15 and hour and not one of them be a fight, all cherries with easy hit% to boot.  mix that in with keeping eye out for vulchs as they unffold, and you then become bruv. :aok

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