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[Hornet33]

On the morning of the day in question, "ring, ring, ring, hello Principals office...good morning this is shamus, shamus Jr. will not be in school today he has a dentists appointment".

Should be the end of it.

shamus

But what about shamus jr's homework for that day? Wow guess what? He's going to be a day behind now because you didn't let the school know in advance, you know when the teachers would have been informed and could have gotten shamus jr's work for the day he was going to be absent prepared for him so he wouldn't fall behind.

There is a LOGICAL reason they want to know in advance, and that one right there is the biggest one. How about if he had a test that day? Well he misses the test, talks to his buddies that night and gets the answers, and cheats on the makeup, IF the teacher allows him a make up test. BUT if the teacher knows in advance they can make a seperate test for shamus jr. or maybe have him take it a day early, whatever. It provides the school needed time to ensure your child doesn't fall behind, and if shamus jr does fall behind who are you going to blame? Not yourself, your going to blame the school for your own screwup that could have easily been prevented by picking up the phone a day or two in advance.

By you picking up the phone the day shamus jr isn't going to be there and having the attitude of "that should be the end of it" you have in FACT caused a bunch of other people a bunch of problems of having to figure out how to keep little shamus jr on track and up to spead with everyone else in his class. Doing what you suggest actually hurts your kids own education and YOU are defeating the entire purpose of sending your child to school.

Bet you never thought of it that way huh?

[Shamus]

But what about shamus jr's homework for that day? Wow guess what? He's going to be a day behind now because you didn't let the school know in advance, you know when the teachers would have been informed and could have gotten shamus jr's work for the day he was going to be absent prepared for him so he wouldn't fall behind.

There is a LOGICAL reason they want to know in advance, and that one right there is the biggest one. How about if he had a test that day? Well he misses the test, talks to his buddies that night and gets the answers, and cheats on the makeup, IF the teacher allows him a make up test. BUT if the teacher knows in advance they can make a seperate test for shamus jr. or maybe have him take it a day early, whatever. It provides the school needed time to ensure your child doesn't fall behind, and if shamus jr does fall behind who are you going to blame? Not yourself, your going to blame the school for your own screwup that could have easily been prevented by picking up the phone a day or two in advance.

By you picking up the phone the day shamus jr isn't going to be there and having the attitude of "that should be the end of it" you have in FACT caused a bunch of other people a bunch of problems of having to figure out how to keep little shamus jr on track and up to spead with everyone else in his class. Doing what you suggest actually hurts your kids own education and YOU are defeating the entire purpose of sending your child to school.

Bet you never thought of it that way huh?

I don't think that the trauma that I caused that bunch of people should be too hard for them to overcome if they put their minds to it.

I think shamus Jr. can overcome missing a day here and there and a thinking parent would probably ask shamus Jr. if he had a test on that day before making the apointment, the operative word here is "thinking"

shamus   

[Hornet33]

I don't think that the trauma that I caused that bunch of people should be too hard for them to overcome if they put their minds to it.

I think shamus Jr. can overcome missing a day here and there and a thinking parent would probably ask shamus Jr. if he had a test on that day before making the apointment, the operative word here is "thinking"

shamus   

So it's OK for YOU to inconvenience all his teachers because you don't think you should have to be inconvenienced by calling a day or two in advance?

Hmmm, pick up the phone, talk for a couple of minutes and everyone is on the same page, OR wait until the day you've known he was going to be out of school, call and make everyone jump through a bunch of hoops trying to figure out how to keep him up to speed.   




Yeah that's "thinking"

[SkyRock]

Seriously. 


The law has been on the books since 1972 (that was before NCLB) and Desoto county decided to act on it this school year becasue it was noted on an audit. 

So, what does this have to do with NCLB? 

Attendance is an indicator to making AYP of the NCLB.

[john9001]

Attencance is an indicator to making AYP of the NCLB.

"Attencance"? You must have missed a lot of school.

[SkyRock]

So it's OK for YOU to inconvenience all his teachers because you don't think you should have to be inconvenienced by calling a day or two in advance?

Hmmm, pick up the phone, talk for a couple of minutes and everyone is on the same page, OR wait until the day you've known he was going to be out of school, call and make everyone jump through a bunch of hoops trying to figure out how to keep him up to speed.   




Yeah that's "thinking"

You are missing the point.  The point is that this law allows an adminstrator to deny a student an excused absence, based soley on their opinion,  if the reason was important enough to warrant an excused absence.  In this case it specifically points out doctors and dentists appointments.  

[Yeager]

This is a new law in the state of Mississippi:

since when is Mississippi a bastion of conservative principles?  I always thought the mud state was pure example government generational welfare run amok....one of the poorest states in the union, and democrat.

[Fury]

School policy: fine.
State Law: School policy should cover it, law is overkill.

[SkyRock]

since when is Mississippi a bastion of conservative principles?  I always thought the mud state was pure example government generational welfare run amok....one of the poorest states in the union, and democrat.

Mississippi has been red for a long time now.  The churches run government down here, and of course the good ole boy politics.

[Donzo]

Attendance is an indicator to making AYP of the NCLB.

Ok, if that's the case the State of Mississsippi came up with this law in 1972...Desoto county decided to start enforcing it this school year....NCLB did not dictate this law, your State defined what attendance is.

So, the Republicans and NCLB had nothing to do with this 36 year old law that one county in your state decided to start enforcing.

[Hornet33]

You are missing the point.  The point is that this law allows an adminstrator to deny a student an excused absence, based soley on their opinion,  if the reason was important enough to warrant an excused absence.  In this case it specifically points out doctors and dentists appointments.  

No I'm not. If Shaniquas mom wants to pull her out of school for an appointment to get her nails done, the priciple has every reason to deny it, and call it an unexcused absense. If she going to the dentists to get her yearly check up and teeth cleaned, it's an excused absense and everything is good as long as mom calls in advance and lets the school know.

And I didn't pull my excample out of my butt. My girlfriend is a teacher and had this situation come up last year and guess what....mom was pissed because Karen (my girlfriend) didn't give her an excussed absence, gave her a zero on her homework she missed and didn't let her make that homework up. To hear Karen tell it, moms reasoning was "My baby girl gots to look good and if she be needin her nails done then you's best excuse da absence so she can be gettin her nails done!!" Karnes and her principles response was "Don't think so."

That is what this law is trying to prevent. The kids are supposed to be in school. The schools have a legal obligation to make sure those kids are in school if enrolled, and too many parents let their kids walk all over them and the parents are contributing to the less than stellar education of their own kids.  If you don't like the law you have an option. Home school your own kids. If your going to enroll your kids in school though that means you as a parent HAVE to follow the rules as well i.e. be held responsible, but damn people really hate that one.

[lazs2]

wait a minute...

Are we talking about EXCUSED absence?   the parent can take the kid out on any old whim or mistake of judgement or simple brain fart but...  if he wants to get the thing excused... he either has to have prior approval or come up with some documentation?

This is a real non issue.    If you want to take the kid fishing on a whim then do it.  don't be upset tho when they don't excuse it.   If you just forgot the dentist.. what is the big deal?  the dentist will write a note.

I am starting to understand it now.. the schools get money for every day they have your kid.. any absence is money out of their pocket..  they want to make it unatractive for parents to take their kids out of school on a whim.

In any case..  it is just one more reason for vouchers and a voucher system.    You don't like your schools policies?  vote with your pocketbook.. enroll the kid in another school.

I would love to see public schools shut down or have to compete.

[Hangtime]

At my job I require my people to give prior notice and doctors excuse in order for an absence to be excused unless it's an emergency.  The problem as I see it is a reflection on a society where the vast majority are so unconscious of everyone around them that such a law would have to be drawn up in the first place.  This should be a no-brainer.  If little Sunshine needs to go to the dentist, you give the school prior notice and send a doctor's excuse when she returns.  There shouldn't need to be a law because YOU SHOULD BE DOING IT ALREADY.  It's called consideration of others.

I'd sure as hell not work for you... If I call up and tell yah I'm not coming in, that's ALL you need to know.

When did the workforce become your property?

[Mojava]

 So Laz, you think it's ok that you telling them why your child is leaving school isn't valid enough that you have to provide evidence.  Nanny state?

[Hangtime]

So it's OK for YOU to inconvenience all his teachers because you don't think you should have to be inconvenienced by calling a day or two in advance?

Hmmm, pick up the phone, talk for a couple of minutes and everyone is on the same page, OR wait until the day you've known he was going to be out of school, call and make everyone jump through a bunch of hoops trying to figure out how to keep him up to speed.   




Yeah that's "thinking"

What? Inconvenienced? Yer kidding, right?

My kids are mine.. not the schools. I wanna take 'em out to go fishin', shootin, to a doctors office or a ball game, I'd love to see 'em try and stop me. Not only did I sign my kid out when I wanted, I've never even offered an explanation as to why.. and when asked they got 'none of your business'.

Gawdamned commie socialist nanny metrosexual pinheads...... messin with everything!