McCains bump in the polls

[Toad]

A while back I posted that it should be almost impossible for the Dems to lose this election but that one should never underestimate the ability of the Dems to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

I still think Obamessiah has this one pretty much in the bag. I find it hard to believe he won't win with about 30 electoral votes to spare.

However, I must admit my failings. I do so enjoy the little glint of fear in the eyes of the libbies and foaming at the mouth as their jaws snap reflexively at nothing. For that gift, I thank McC for choosing Palin and thank Palin for sending the left into a howling, whirling, tail-biting frenzy with just one speech. You can't buy entertainment like this!

Hell, Palin wiping the smug grin off Olberman's face and making Matthews look like his best gerbil died almost made me write a check to McC. (Barr is getting my money.)

[alskahawk]

 "A while back I posted that it should be almost impossible for the Dems to lose this election but that one should never underestimate the ability of the Dems to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory."

I am reminded of the last election when the Kerry campaign released a picture of Senator Kerry hunting. To me that was the "jump the shark" moment for the Kerry campaign. It wasn't the Swift boat vets or the Republicans painting Kerry as a far left liberal(he is). Stupid, obvious, and lacking any strategical foundation.

 My little thoughts on this election; Obama wins 85% of the black vote. The black minority will vote in a far higher percentage than they ever have. Hispanics; 55-65% for Obama. Women 65%; Obama. Historically women vote Dem. Governor Palin may pull 3-5% of the Hillary vote. But most women will vote party affiliation. Governor Palin is very conservative. Which may turn many women away. Educated white vote; 55-60%.
 
 The Republican party is increasingly becoming a party of exclusion not inclusion so their base is getting more and more narrow with each election. Christian right, conservatives, NRA, nearly all white. And the current administration has a slightly higher poll rating than a flaming bag of dog do on your porch. 

 Barr; I would like to see him get enough votes to scare both of these parties into cleaning up their acts. Won't happen but it would be nice.



 
 

[Delirium]

Women 65%; Obama. Historically women vote Dem. Governor Palin may pull 3-5% of the Hillary vote. But most women will vote party affiliation. Governor Palin is very conservative. Which may turn many women away.

I disagree, I believe more woman will vote for Palin than you say but this number could diminish if the smear campaign against her can reach the women. For example, if the comedians turn her into a Dan Quayle joke machine it will erode the female vote by reaching those women that don't watch the news on a routine basis.

[Ripsnort]

This week's ratings, with an average of 34.5 million viewers watching the GOP convention over three days, proved people are becoming more interested in what the Republicans have to say. The Democrats had an average audience of 30.2 million over four days, Nielsen said.

[Elfie]

Barr; I would like to see him get enough votes to scare both of these parties into cleaning up their acts. Won't happen but it would be nice.

If Mccain/Palin do as they say they want to do, they just might clean up the Republican party now.

[lazs2]

to sew it up.. the dems needed to get about a 10+ points bounce in the polls from the convention..  they got about 8.

Palin wiped it out.  Palin made a HUGE differece.

That does not mean the liberal socialist metrosexual democrats can't/won't win..

It does mean that they can lose.. look at what they are doing to themselves.. they are making people like em less.. just look at this board.. look at the osambinbiden libs here.. after reading them.. just like the media.. they make you feel dirty.. not people you want to hang around with.

Makes you want to hang around Palin with the "not cosmopoliton (metrosexual) enough" crowd in some small town in Alaska so you can feel clean again.

The best thing is that I bet there are a whole lot more people who are saying..  "I will never watch the news or buy a leftist newspaper again"

lazs

[Getback]

to sew it up.. the dems needed to get about a 10+ points bounce in the polls from the convention..  they got about 8.

Palin wiped it out.  Palin made a HUGE differece.

That does not mean the liberal socialist metrosexual democrats can't/won't win..

It does mean that they can lose.. look at what they are doing to themselves.. they are making people like em less.. just look at this board.. look at the osambinbiden libs here.. after reading them.. just like the media.. they make you feel dirty.. not people you want to hang around with.

Makes you want to hang around Palin with the "not cosmopoliton (metrosexual) enough" crowd in some small town in Alaska so you can feel clean again.

The best thing is that I bet there are a whole lot more people who are saying..  "I will never watch the news or buy a leftist newspaper again"

lazs

Ditto Laz, McCain and Palin will make Nobama and NoBiden look like sissies.

[sluggish]

What we are forgeting are the people (like my parents) who have vote dem their entire lives but WILL NOT vote for a black man.  I don't talk politics with my folks because we just don't see eye to eye, but my mom has been forwarding all of the anti-obama emails that have been forwarded to her and I see all of her friends (also dyed in the wool UAW dems) who are buying into the "obama is a muslim" crap.  These are the people, who when polled, will say they're for obama, to not look like the obvious racists that they are (having voted dem all their lives) but pull the lever for mac when they get behind the curtain.

November could be the start of the revolution that laser prays for daily.  This election could be SO lopsided that the rioting may not be contained to the black inner city.  If it overflows to the rural areas where folks cling to their guns and religion it could start a chain reaction that will be hard to turn back from.

I must add that I do not wish for this outcome, I am only pointing out its obvious possibility.

[Toad]

Hadn't really thought about that.

I think it will be a close one and if the Dems were to lose a close one they'd immediately start screaming that the Reps stole the election and/or cheated or some excuse besides the obvious fact that their far left liberal candidate did not convince enough people to vote for him.

It could easily lead to riots. Look what happens in cities where the basketball team loses the NBA championship. Heck, Boston had riots when the Celtics won.

[Getback]

I think the more Palin speaks the more like McCain wins. They found a diamond! McCain, or McBrilliant as Rush refers to him, did a great service to the conservatives.

[Getback]

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/portrayal_of_obama_as_elitist?utm_source=videomrss_85923

  You know he's got a point. Proud day indead. Say you going to vote for the man, nah, I've worked my whole life. I aint got nothing in common with the man! 

[CptTrips]

What we are forgeting are the people (like my parents) who have vote dem their entire lives but WILL NOT vote for a black man.  I don't talk politics with my folks because we just don't see eye to eye, but my mom has been forwarding all of the anti-obama emails that have been forwarded to her and I see all of her friends (also dyed in the wool UAW dems) who are buying into the "obama is a muslim" crap.  These are the people, who when polled, will say they're for obama, to not look like the obvious racists that they are (having voted dem all their lives) but pull the lever for mac when they get behind the curtain.

November could be the start of the revolution that laser prays for daily.  This election could be SO lopsided that the rioting may not be contained to the black inner city.  If it overflows to the rural areas where folks cling to their guns and religion it could start a chain reaction that will be hard to turn back from.

I must add that I do not wish for this outcome, I am only pointing out its obvious possibility.

Oh I get it.  Their guy loses an election and they riot and burn in the streets.  Yeah.  They're ready to participate in our political system.

Did the "white" Republicans riot in the streets when they lost the Congress?  No.  You suck it up, learn from your mistakes, and start planning for the next election.

If you want to play domino's at the grownups table, then learn not to throw an embaressing fit whenever you lose.

,
Wab

[alskahawk]

 Palin may become a liability. Remember we are one weekend after the convention. A lot of voters will just look at the head lines and vote. Here are some things that have come out on Palin in last few days.

 Trooper gate; The trooper is no angel. 4 marriages.  He has other problems. Palin probably unduly used her office to have him removed from his job. Trooper gate report comes out October 10. Head of investigation is a Dem.

Palin's record is not all she says it is. The luxury(governor's) plane she listed on EBay. Didn't actually sell on EBay. They had to list it with a broker. Then sold it at a loss.
 My opinion; I don't know how luxurious the plane in question was but unlike most states, you need a plane to get around in Alaska. Very few roads between towns. Boat or air is the mode of transportation in Alaska. So does the Governor get around the state? Charter flights? Definitely not commercial air. So how much did she save the state?

Palin, "went against the powers that be" and fought the corruption in the Republican party. Well sort of; The investigation was already going on when she took office. Opinion; Not a tough decision; FBI was involved. Go against the FBI and suffer the consequences.

5 children and one of them a special needs child and she is on the campaign trail? A pregnant unmarried 17 year old daughter and she enters the national spotlight? Nice mom(my opinion) Lot of women (mothers) are not going to like this.

Bridge to no where; She supported it during her campaign. Opposed it after she got in office.(it was a dead issue by then) Money for the bridge still went to Alaska for various other projects. Opinion; Development in Alaska is severely limited, by National Forest, topography, wildlife, water. The bridge in question would have opened some land for development.  

 Her record will not stand up to the in depth scrutiny of the national spotlight. And there is no rich daddy to cover up  the missteps. (my opinion)

 She is not doing any interviews. Of the 3 speeches I've heard her give she's given the same speech every time. (note; most of the candidates often give same speech to similar crowds). Need more information.

 Its going to be interesting to see how the Republicans will handle this. She will have to submit to an interview or two before long. McCain is best in the town hall type of speech. Palin is best when she can give a prepared speech and leave the stage. How is Palin going to respond to questions in a town hall setting? They will have to contend with the Trooper report in October. Maybe some lawsuits to keep it from going public until after the election?





 

[DREDIOCK]

What we are forgeting are the people (like my parents) who have vote dem their entire lives but WILL NOT vote for a black man.  I don't talk politics with my folks because we just don't see eye to eye, but my mom has been forwarding all of the anti-obama emails that have been forwarded to her and I see all of her friends (also dyed in the wool UAW dems) who are buying into the "obama is a muslim" crap.  These are the people, who when polled, will say they're for obama, to not look like the obvious racists that they are (having voted dem all their lives) but pull the lever for mac when they get behind the curtain.

November could be the start of the revolution that laser prays for daily.  This election could be SO lopsided that the rioting may not be contained to the black inner city.  If it overflows to the rural areas where folks cling to their guns and religion it could start a chain reaction that will be hard to turn back from.

I must add that I do not wish for this outcome, I am only pointing out its obvious possibility.

On the other hand Think of all the black voters who never bothered to vote before who now will because  Of Obama.
Think about it  Obama did pretty good in the south in the primaries.
You really dont think he had alot of support from the Good ol boys down there.

[moot]

Hadn't really thought about that.

I think it will be a close one and if the Dems were to lose a close one they'd immediately start screaming that the Reps stole the election and/or cheated or some excuse besides the obvious fact that their far left liberal candidate did not convince enough people to vote for him.

It could easily lead to riots. Look what happens in cities where the basketball team loses the NBA championship. Heck, Boston had riots when the Celtics won.

You have to admit that at this point there's enough people uncontrolably foaming at the mouth and getting completely out of line with dirty tactics that cheating from either party wouldn't be immediately deniable..  I personaly still don't see any good reason for going to digital voting machines.