McCains bump in the polls

[Hangtime]

... and all 5 of 'em are republicans.

[john9001]

Electoral vote predictor


Unlike other sites, which track generic national polls, this site tracks the state-by-state polls. After all, the presidency is decided by 51 separate state elections,

 

51 state elections?  ok who voted twice?

[Nwbie]

http://www.50states.com/

[WWhiskey]

Hmmmm.I don't remember anybody saying Nancy Pelosi should be at home instead of politics,and she has five children.

exactly!

[DREDIOCK]

51 state elections?  ok who voted twice?

I think he is including Puerto Rico

[Elfie]

I think he is including Puerto Rico

Or maybe the District of Columbia?

[DREDIOCK]

Either way.
Its about as unbias a pulse as your going to find

[Ripsnort]

Here's how the polls show it after day 1.5 of the RNC, FoxNews

Here are the polls 4 days after: McCain leading. 
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html

How's that sock taste in your mouth?

FWIW, polls are meaningless for the most part.

[DREDIOCK]

Here are the polls 4 days after: McCain leading. 
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html

How's that sock taste in your mouth?

FWIW, polls are meaningless for the most part.

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 National average is meaningless as they only represent the popular vote.

The only poll thats gonna matter is the one represented on this page

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/

[Toad]

That reminds me.... can one of the Dems tell me which is most important this time? Is it the electoral college or the popular vote.

I mean there was such a deal over popular vote with Gore.

So if McC wins the popular but loses the electoral, he should be Prez, right? Or are we changing that this time?

Just want to get this straight before the election. 

[ROX]

The polls were saying John Kerry was a shoe-in.

Polls are very unreliable...even with a 3-5 point margin of error.




ROX

[DREDIOCK]

That reminds me.... can one of the Dems tell me which is most important this time? Is it the electoral college or the popular vote.

I mean there was such a deal over popular vote with Gore.

So if McC wins the popular but loses the electoral, he should be Prez, right? Or are we changing that this time?

Just want to get this straight before the election. 

I think we would or will see the same whines from either side if it went down the other side last time or should it come down that way again.

Electoral vote is the only poll that matters.
National Polls mean nothng particularly if a candidate only widens those poll numbers in his already locked up area.
Then yea his overall poll numbers will go up.
But he is also only preaching to the choir.
That is why I keep saying McCain Has to make himself even more appealing ot the middle.
His base was going to vote for him anyway. so making him even more popular with people that were going to vote his way anyway was pointless.
He HAS to appeal to the middle and moderate left more to win this election.
He HAs to steal votes from Obama in other states then his own already republican states.
He wont do that if he keeps preaching baseline.



He has to make more of an impact in places like, New Jersey,New York,PA, As well as win over The Barely Dem states like Ohio

[Toad]

This is specifically for Crockett; it may help him understand why the Dems are so adept at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Others may find it insightful as well.

It's written by a Brit, an outside perspective on the Democrats continual problem with the American electorate.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f1984d88-7cd5-11dd-8d59-000077b07658.html

Democrats must learn some respect

Democrats speak up for the less prosperous; they have well-intentioned policies to help them; they are disturbed by inequality, and want to do something about it. Their concern is real and admirable. The trouble is, they lack respect for the objects of their solicitude. Their sympathy comes mixed with disdain, and even contempt.

[Elfie]

I think we would or will see the same whines from either side if it went down the other side last time or should it come down that way again.

I think most people realize that the only vote that really matters is the Electoral vote. If all states had laws making it mandatory for the Electoral votes to be cast the same direction their popular votes went, then our votes might actually mean something. That is also the only way we will avoid one candidate winning the popular vote and the other one winning the Electoral vote and the election.

[lazs2]

yep toad..  this bears repeating....  from the article..

"Democrats regard their policies as self-evidently in the interests of the US working and middle classes. Yet those wide segments of US society keep helping to elect Republican presidents. How is one to account for this? Are those people idiots? Frankly, yes – or so many liberals are driven to conclude. Either that or bigots, clinging to guns, God and white supremacy; or else pathetic dupes, ever at the disposal of Republican strategists. If they only had the brains to vote in their interests, Democrats think, the party would never be out of power. But again and again, the Republicans tell their lies, and those stupid damned voters buy it.

It is an attitude that a good part of the US media share. The country has conservative media (Fox News, talk radio) as well as liberal media (most of the rest). Curiously, whereas the conservative media know they are conservative, much of the liberal media believe themselves to be neutral.

Their constant support for Democratic views has nothing to do with bias, in their minds, but reflects the fact that Democrats just happen to be right about everything. The result is the same: for much of the media, the fact that Republicans keep winning can only be due to the backwardness of much of the country. "

lazs