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Re: McCain's Speech
« Reply #30 on: September 05, 2008, 08:47:49 AM »
I thought McCains speech was pretty good. Comparing it to Palin's though, is apples and oranges.  Her speech was meant to introduce herself, not lay out a platform - a totallly different purpose (she can deliver a speech far better than McCain no matter what the content). 

The old boy's speech struck me as humble, sincere, and his true love for our country came across loud and clear. it also gave me the feeling that he has real backbone and integrity.  I disagree with some of his track record on policy, but I love that guy.  he will do as far as I'm concerned.

Its interesting how much hunger there is out there for more of anything "Palin".  Progressives are transfixed and scrambling on how they will go about putting Palin in a box.  they can hardly talk about anything else.  but Palin keeps overflowing the box.  Oprah is getting pressure to have Palin on even though that is the LAST thing she wants to do.  Some polls are showing Palin'a approval rating higher than McCains and Obamas.  This is starting to look like a cultural phenominum to me, something that might really grab women, even liberal women.  In spite of Gloria Stenhiem trashing Palin, and proving that the so-called feminist movement is actually a progressive liberal organization and not so much a movement to empower women - Sarah Palin is empowering to women.
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Re: McCain's Speech
« Reply #31 on: September 05, 2008, 08:49:39 AM »
Obamaramma stated after the O'Riely interview that the Republicans have not talked
about the issues. I was worried that McCain wasn't going to touch on this in his speech.
Halfway through, he finally started to talk about the issues at hand...Thank God.

Also I think the Republicans talked too much about McCain and Vietnam. It seemed
that they kept pounding on that point.Two or Three times is enough. I totally
respect the man for what he went through and it does show his character.

Also, The audience was alittle to wild..everytime McCain was ready to deliver
a major point, he was interupted by  USA USA USA

 
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Re: McCain's Speech
« Reply #32 on: September 05, 2008, 08:52:51 AM »
Gunthr, It has been said that the "Palin" phenomenon will cool down in the weeks to come.
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Re: McCain's Speech
« Reply #33 on: September 05, 2008, 08:54:48 AM »

Also, The audience was alittle to wild..everytime McCain was ready to deliver
a major point, he was interupted by  USA USA USA

 

Those USA chants were the crowd attempting to drown out the patheric cries of a protestor that made it in the Excel Engery Center.

They succeeded.  :aok
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Re: McCain's Speech
« Reply #34 on: September 05, 2008, 08:56:34 AM »
Ohhh  I thought it was just one out burst...so thats why they kept chanting USA.
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Re: McCain's Speech
« Reply #35 on: September 05, 2008, 09:03:39 AM »
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...Also I think the Republicans talked too much about McCain and Vietnam. It seemed
that they kept pounding on that point.Two or Three times is enough...

I disagree. Its a mistake to assume that younger voters know anything about Vietnam or anything about McCains experience as a POW.  McCain gave details about it in his speech that he has never spoke of in public before, and I'm willing to bet that some of it was information you never heard before, Kaw.  it is a real contrast to Obama's life experiences... any campaign would advise their candidate to go into it and keep it in front of the voters.

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« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2008, 09:06:35 AM »
I understand that, but Fred Thompson told the whole story, Indepth, on the first night,
then it was mentioned by every speaker there after.
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Re: McCain's Speech
« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2008, 09:09:55 AM »
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Gunthr, It has been said that the "Palin" phenomenon will cool down in the weeks to come. -Kaw

nevertheless, I give my own impression based on what I see.
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Re: McCain's Speech
« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2008, 11:09:52 AM »
I understand that, but Fred Thompson told the whole story, Indepth, on the first night,
then it was mentioned by every speaker there after.


Yup. To us.. it was a bit tedious. To the vast majority of sunday republicans that caught only that speech, and to the millions more saturday morning democrats that will only catch it in soundbytes.. it was good that he said it. It's the only time I can recall ever hearing McCain himself mention any detail on his imprisonment.

The best part was the back 1/4 of the speech.. the crowd went nuts. Never seen McOldie holler over a crowd before. Damn.. that was rousing!
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« Reply #39 on: September 05, 2008, 11:57:05 AM »
1st half I'll give it a C+. Second half I'll give it an AAAA+++++

Oh snap!!! I fell asleep the first half....so the second half was that good?
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Re: McCain's Speech
« Reply #40 on: September 05, 2008, 02:11:12 PM »
I disagree. Its a mistake to assume that younger voters know anything about Vietnam or anything about McCains experience as a POW.  McCain gave details about it in his speech that he has never spoke of in public before, and I'm willing to bet that some of it was information you never heard before, Kaw.  it is a real contrast to Obama's life experiences... any campaign would advise their candidate to go into it and keep it in front of the voters.



Before I go any further, I wan't to make it clear,I'm not belittling McCain or anyone else's service to their country. I grateful to all service men and woman who have fought for my freedoms.

That said, am I the only person who refuses to believe McCain's Vietnam experiences will automatically make him a better CIC than someone without military experience? Sure it might make him a great CIC, but I need more detail about his command experience and how successful he was. For all we know, he absolutely sucked as a soldier / airman.

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« Reply #41 on: September 05, 2008, 02:16:59 PM »
Before I go any further, I wan't to make it clear,I'm not belittling McCain or anyone else's service to their country. I grateful to all service men and woman who have fought for my freedoms.

That said, am I the only person who refuses to believe McCain's Vietnam experiences will automatically make him a better CIC than someone without military experience? Sure it might make him a great CIC, but I need more detail about his command experience and how successful he was. For all we know, he absolutely sucked as a soldier / airman.

After the physical mess the Vietnamese left him, he came back and fought thru some pretty ugly and painful physical therapy to regain his flight status.. after he was told he's never fly again. He did it.. returned to flight status and was eventually given command of an Attack Squadron.. where he excelled.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-mccainsquadron14apr14,1,5335268.story?track=rss
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Re: McCain's Speech
« Reply #42 on: September 05, 2008, 02:35:28 PM »
After the physical mess the Vietnamese left him, he came back and fought thru some pretty ugly and painful physical therapy to regain his flight status.. after he was told he's never fly again. He did it.. returned to flight status and was eventually given command of an Attack Squadron.. where he excelled.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-mccainsquadron14apr14,1,5335268.story?track=rss


plus 22 years of service overall that i though the didnt talk about enough!
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Re: McCain's Speech
« Reply #43 on: September 05, 2008, 02:48:06 PM »
I listened to his speech this morning, was completely true.
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Re: McCain's Speech
« Reply #44 on: September 05, 2008, 02:52:10 PM »
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Before I go any further, I wan't to make it clear,I'm not belittling McCain or anyone else's service to their country. I grateful to all service men and woman who have fought for my freedoms.

That said, am I the only person who refuses to believe McCain's Vietnam experiences will automatically make him a better CIC than someone without military experience? Sure it might make him a great CIC, but I need more detail about his command experience and how successful he was. For all we know, he absolutely sucked as a soldier / airman. - Wooley

I think the CIC skill stuff is a little irrelevant for the Presidency... I don't see the Pres needing to be hands-on in military workings so much - as long as he supports good generals.  But what McCains Vietnam experience shows me, in very stark contrast to Obama and his wife, is McCAIN LOVES THIS COUNTRY and he made a huge sacrifice for the sake of it.  McCain is not an effete "world citizen", he is a proven patriot.  That is what his Vietnam experience means to me.  I'd love to shake his hand and thank him personally.
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