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Offline wrag

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Obama and guns?
« on: September 05, 2008, 12:29:30 PM »
This is probably the start of a new gun thread?

BUT it's not really about guns it's about a politicians stance on OUR rights....

http://gunbanobama.com/

And I don't see the gun thread anymore?
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Re: Obama and guns?
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2008, 12:31:21 PM »
I already knew that.
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Re: Obama and guns?
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2008, 12:58:02 PM »
Should have just posted this to the gun thread wrag, its going to get dumped there anyway.

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Re: Obama and guns?
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2008, 01:30:48 PM »
Should have just posted this to the gun thread wrag, its going to get dumped there anyway.


Where is the gun thread?

Use to be a sticky but now it's?????

Well if it gets dumped there the it gets dumped there.
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Re: Obama and guns?
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2008, 03:17:02 PM »
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ALBANY---As large cities across New York try to curb gun violence, legislators are trying to lend a hand. They want to force gun manufacturers to implement technology which would allow law enforcement to trace bullet casings.
This bill to trace shell casings was introduced by a democratic assemblywoman and there is also support in the Republican-controlled Senate.

If the bill moves through both the Assembly and Senate, all new semiautomatic pistols made or delivered to licensed dealers in New York would have to be microstamped, a way of tracing what bullets come from what guns.

"The only person who would not want micro stamping is someone who fires a gun and doesn't want to get caught," Assemblywoman Michelle Schimel said.

Here's how microstamping works.  When a gun is fired, the make, model and serial number of the gun is stamped onto the shell casing in the form of letters and numbers.

The hope is that investigators can trace the original gun purchaser and start a tracking process.

"If we get three shells at the scene, we have a 90% chance of getting a match on that shell and where that gun came from," Senator Martin Golden said.

Senator Martin Golden, a former New York City police officer, says the support is there from the majority conference.  He notes microstamping isn't the magic bullet in crime fighting, but it could be an effective tool in tracking down those who are shooting up the streets.

"Will it solve the murder, will it solve the shooting? It may not, but it gives us the extra tool to track that gun down," Golden said.

If the bill becomes law, microstamping technology on new semiautomatic pistols would be mandatory by 2010.

"So if you're using it in a proper manner, you won't even notice it the micro stamping technology, and I'm telling the hundreds of sportsmen, the peace officers, this is strictly for crime prevention," said Schimel said.

 
 
---Why is this a problem to NRA?

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Re: Obama and guns?
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2008, 03:34:00 PM »
this probably won't work but we want to do it anyway, because our job is to pass laws even if they don't do anything. That's how we get re-elected. We are law makers.

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Re: Obama and guns?
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2008, 03:40:20 PM »
The micro stamping will not work.

Too EZ to change the stamp or even erase it.
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Re: Obama and guns?
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2008, 04:37:28 PM »
The micro stamping will not work.

Too EZ to change the stamp or even erase it.

So what is it? - is it a raised impression on the firing pin?

Personally - I don't think the average yo - yo who has managed to get a stolen gun - would even care about changing it... but I guess changing it would seem easy

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« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2008, 04:42:25 PM »
The micro stamping will not work.

Too EZ to change the stamp or even erase it.

Yeah-won't even be a minor hurdle to a serious killer. Besides...There's already so many pieces out there that won't have that micro-stamping thingamajig on it, that by the time new guns with that tech in them hit the shelves, It won't really have any effect anyway.

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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2008, 04:46:39 PM »
I dont need to read the link. Obama is from my state.

If your a person who believes you have a right to all your rights under the Constitution then you should get your head checked before you vote for Obama.

And dont forget people in Illinois are pretty stupid. Not all but most couldnt even be considered fairly bright primates, and the more education they have the dumber they generally are. So when they hear a guy like Obama, and other Pols in IL. always one step ahead of indictment, tell them that their social problems are due to the availability of guns. They are generally so dumb they believe it
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« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2008, 05:00:29 PM »
Obama also has a 10 point plan on guns, not one point is good.

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1. Ban use of firearms for home defense.

2. Pass Federal laws eliminating your Right -to Carry.

3. Ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns.

4. Close down 90% of the gun shops in America.

5. Ban rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.

6. Increase federal taxes on guns and ammunition by 500%

7. RESTORE VOTING RIGHTS FOR FIVE MILLION CRIMINALS INCLUDING THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN CONVICTED OF USING A GUN TO COMMIT A VIOLENT CRIME.

8. Expand the Clinton semi-auto ban to include millions more firearms.

9. Mandate a government issued license to purchase a firearm.

10. Appoint judges to the U. S. Supreme Court and Federal judiciary who share his views on the Second Amendment.

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Re: Obama and guns?
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2008, 05:05:20 PM »
Anyone know how to get a hold of Obama...I just want to take him snipe huntin...ONE TIME... :mad:

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« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2008, 05:15:55 PM »
Anyone know how to get a hold of Obama...I just want to take him snipe huntin...ONE TIME... :mad:

Just take him camping one time in Alaska. Put him in charge of cooking the bacon the first morning while you go looking for some fresh camp meat......

Not that I would ever do something so dastardly.....



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Re: Obama and guns?
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2008, 05:46:52 PM »
Obama also has a 10 point plan on guns, not one point is good.

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Re: Obama and guns?
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2008, 06:19:45 PM »

---Why is this a problem to NRA?

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Firing pins are easily replacable. 

Microstamping could be easily filed off.

Shoot 1000 rounds and the microstamping could be worn off.

Revolvers do not eject casings.

Result? increased cost to the law abiding citizen, no change in law enforcement.

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