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Offline DREDIOCK

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Service oriented Business owners/contractors question. Advertising
« on: September 06, 2008, 09:45:43 AM »
Ok I know there are a few other business owners out there.

Curious as to what you find works the best for you in attracting new business.

Yellowbook
Yellowpages.
Newspaper.
Home town newspaper type circulars  (those little newspapers in plastic bags that usually litter your driveway)
Church/Community bulletin/newsletters.
Referral companies like "Service Magic"
Business cards in stores.

Etc.

What do you find works best for you?
And which have you found  as being little more then something you pour money into?
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Re: Service oriented Business owners/contractors question. Advertising
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2008, 09:47:35 AM »
You could hire some of these guys....

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Re: Service oriented Business owners/contractors question. Advertising
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2008, 09:52:04 AM »
When I was a contractor, though I'm not anymore, I did all of my advertising through my local
paper. Once I started getting busy most of my business came from word of mouth and I would only
run an ad about once every couple of months.
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Re: Service oriented Business owners/contractors question. Advertising
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2008, 09:59:58 AM »
dred.. when I was a contractor I also did all my advertising through the papers.   I also made contacts with the other contractors who needed my service and the outlets where supplies could be purchased.

With lowes and home depot getting cut rate contractors and all the illegals that might not work these days tho.

Probly need a gimmick these days..

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Re: Service oriented Business owners/contractors question. Advertising
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2008, 10:02:09 AM »
http://www.gmarketing.com

It's called guerrilla marketing, marketing instead of warfare. There's all sorts of marketing stuff there.
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Re: Service oriented Business owners/contractors question. Advertising
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2008, 10:07:00 AM »
I have read a few things about this subject. You have to get you name out there
in the the faces of many people. I put my business card anywhere I can.
If you see a bulletin board put a business card on it. Give every one you meet a business
card. get your name on anything and everything you can find.
  Promote your company by putting up a booth at a local festival.
Get involved in organisations and donate a prize in your name.

Make sure you business looks clean a presentable..when people come to
your business make it look like a class act!

I'm going to have a contest in my neighborhood at Christmas time for the best
decorated house. I'm going to put flyers on the doors announcing my contest.
People will have to bring the flyers in my store to enter the contest.
I will give a $300 1st prize 2nd $200 and 3rd $100.

Advertising is very expensive when using the papers or T.V.
 Think of other ways to advertise that until you have the capital to afford the newspapers and T.V.

Also as another said...word of mouth is a great asset to your company. If you do
a good job and are honest and frendly to people, the word on mouth is very powerful!!
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Re: Service oriented Business owners/contractors question. Advertising
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2008, 10:15:53 AM »
Yellowbook/YellowPages managed to generate mostly sales calls, the few customer calls are usually pretty useless.

Newspaper/Print usually requires a lot of patience unless your the only guy advertising your specialty.

Church bulletins will generate leads if it's your church and everybody knows you.

Service Magic and the lot are a waste of time.

Never tried cards in stores,

Depending on what you do there's property managers, condo associations, Realtors (who have proven to be profitable bird dogs to me in the past).

There's always flyers placed directly in the neighborhoods you want to work in.

But the most reliable is referrals. For any business repeat or referred customers are they most lucrative. I put most of my marketing effort into developing that source. But I have a real small outfit that does mostly higher end stuff. I can't sell price and am picky about what I bid.

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Re: Service oriented Business owners/contractors question. Advertising
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2008, 10:37:18 AM »
Well it really depends what kind of service you intend to provide. You need to give a clue as to what you are doing before anyone can tell you the best opinion. I've done a lot of advertising but it really depends on who you are trying to reach, with out that info it's pointless to give an opinion.

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Re: Service oriented Business owners/contractors question. Advertising
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2008, 10:41:10 AM »
Well it really depends what kind of service you intend to provide. You need to give a clue as to what you are doing before anyone can tell you the best opinion. I've done a lot of advertising but it really depends on who you are trying to reach, with out that info it's pointless to give an opinion.



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Re: Service oriented Business owners/contractors question. Advertising
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2008, 10:59:38 AM »
Sales are Sales weather its buggie whips or widgets.

I'd have to disagree with that. For instance selling used cars takes entirely different marketing than say selling a service to another business. Selling a service to a business once again takes entirely different marketing vs selling a service to a individual. Advertising all depends on who you want to reach and what you are providing or selling.
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Re: Service oriented Business owners/contractors question. Advertising
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2008, 04:14:52 PM »
"Buddy Referrals" are the best.
 I also like to get 10000 flyers made up, then have them inserted into the local paper according to zipcode.

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Re: Service oriented Business owners/contractors question. Advertising
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2008, 04:16:44 PM »
thirty years in business and I never advertise.  our work advertises for us.

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Re: Service oriented Business owners/contractors question. Advertising
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2008, 04:32:06 PM »
I'd have to disagree with that. For instance selling used cars takes entirely different marketing than say selling a service to another business. Selling a service to a business once again takes entirely different marketing vs selling a service to a individual. Advertising all depends on who you want to reach and what you are providing or selling.


you're wrong.


i own a repair shop. i sell(obviously) automotive repairs, diagnosis's, and maintenance. i do it very well. if i can get the customer in the door, i can sell them SOMETHING. i never resort to selling something the vehicle doesn't need.


a friend of mine owns a corsetry shop in philly. i help her out there sometimes fixing things.

about a month ago, this couple comes in, looking for things for her to wear. the sales girls were both busy with other customers, so i stepped in and asked if i could help them. the woman went over to look at some miniskirts while the husband told me what they were looking for. i asked him if he knew what size she wore, he did, so i pulled a couple things off the shelf for them.

 to shorten it up, they walked out with almost $700 of corset, and fetishy colthes for her.

 they did come back to buy more, a few weeks ago, and although the salesgirls weren't busy this time, they wanted me to help them.


so, yes.......selling is selling, if you're selling shoes, repairs, whatever. it all works the same.

 treat the customer well, and they'll come back, and most likely send friends back to you too.

dred,......i'm getting ready to leave for the day...when i log back on tonight or tomorrow, i'll go through what works for me so far, ok?

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Re: Service oriented Business owners/contractors question. Advertising
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2008, 04:33:15 PM »
thirty years in business and I never advertise.  our work advertises for us.

yep...basically word of mouth.

i've only been in business for 6 months, and that works best for me so far
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Re: Service oriented Business owners/contractors question. Advertising
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2008, 10:58:28 PM »
Yellowbook/YellowPages managed to generate mostly sales calls, the few customer calls are usually pretty useless.

Newspaper/Print usually requires a lot of patience unless your the only guy advertising your specialty.

Church bulletins will generate leads if it's your church and everybody knows you.

Service Magic and the lot are a waste of time.

Never tried cards in stores,

Depending on what you do there's property managers, condo associations, Realtors (who have proven to be profitable bird dogs to me in the past).

There's always flyers placed directly in the neighborhoods you want to work in.

But the most reliable is referrals. For any business repeat or referred customers are they most lucrative. I put most of my marketing effort into developing that source. But I have a real small outfit that does mostly higher end stuff. I can't sell price and am picky about what I bid.

I do Painting Wallpapering and small home improvements and an assortment of repairs.
But I've had people call me and be willing to pay me for all sorts of things. From putting together a store bought Desks and bookcases. To hanging Window treatments. Usually the phone call starts with. "I know you dont usually do this, But..."

As for advertising
I've tried about all of them.
The single two that have worked better then all the rest combined is word of mouth.
And business cards in the Hardware/Paint stores where I buy my supplies.

Yellow Pages, Newspapers and Service Magic generated mostly either as you say, Sales calls (people looking to sell me something) Or people just price shopping. Though I have a buddy that swears by the little township weekly newspapers.
They just havent worked for me.
Service Magic was a HUGE waste of time and money.And seem to think they are like the mafia when you try to cancel. I think I posted a story about it about a year ago

Tried Yellowbook.com this past year and since January I've received exactly 1 phone call..yep..1
Another price shopper.

Like you I'm small and tend to do more high end quality stuff. Rather then be a Gob & go (Gob it on and go onto the next one)
So selling by price can sometimes be difficult. I always tell people to make sure they are comparing apples and apples

Another area where I've gotten work is in retirement communities bulletins Where my customers have actually volunteered to put my name up.

Another thing I'll do is create my own luck.
Often when Im in one of the stores. Homeowners will come in looking for this or that. Or will just be buying some paint.
I'f they seem like they need help I'll ask them a few questions then give them my advice and then hand them a card and ell them if they have any problems,call me.
I this past year did a 6K job for the daughter of a lady I helped in the store a year prior.
Amazing how many jobs i've gotten over the years just by helping people in the store and then handing them my card.
Saved my arse during some dead times on several occasions.

Another thing Im about to try is some door to door flyers Im working on.
There is a relatively new housing development that was built between 1 and two years ago just a few blocks form me.
I figure I'll print out some flyers. Then hire my daughter and one of her friends to go around depositing them on peoples houses.
I find that after about a year in new homes people want to start personalizing their places with color.
My approach is going to be simple.
just a Basic flyer advertising my name and type of work I do. The downside of construction grade paint. The quality materials I use yadda yadda yadda. etc etc etc
But with the Opening line in bold letters.

"Tired of White Yet?"

The most common thing people tell me when they paint a newer house is.
"I'm just so tired of looking at white"

I figure at worst. My kid and one of her friends make a couple bucks spending money.

But to be honest. I've found my best success in advertising has also been the cheapest.
Simple Business cards and word of mouth.
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