obama's earmarks

[crockett]

I don't know hang..  if it is the governments job to protect the borders and they think we need a fence then it should be the feds who foot the bill.

My opinion is.. as it has always been. you will only stop about 30% of the problem with a fence but..

You will end 99.9999% if you simply have an instant background check for employment (hey.. they sure as hell can do it for me to buy a simple handgun) 

have the check.. if he passes.. hire him.... if he doesn't and you hire him anyway..  when you get caught.. you go to prison for a mandatory 1 year term.

no schools or hospitals other than emergency for illegals.. no becoming a citizen by birth unless at least one of your parents is a citizen.

end of problem..  the fence and border patrol would then be there to stop bad guys.

lazs

A fence for boarder protection IMO is the perfect use of federal earmark money. The budget for securing the boarder shouldn't fall on a state just the same as states that have crap loads of illegals like Cali or Texas or Florida. Those states should get help from the federal govt to help pay for the bills these illegals cause. (ie like not paying hospital bills ect..ect..) The state should get subsidized by the federal govt, because it's the federal govt that isn't doing it's job to keep the illegals out.

[crockett]

Sorry crock.  Nowhere in that quote does she say she sent the money back.

Not in that quote but in her speech that's what she said. She has said the same thing a few times now so who knows which quote they used. I just used what was in that article.

[Hangtime]

A fence for boarder protection IMO is the perfect used of federal earmark money. The budget for securing the boarder shouldn't fall on a state just the same as states that have crap loads of illegals like Cali or Texas or Florida. Those states should get help from the federal govt to help pay for the bills these illegals cause. (ie like not paying hospital bills ect..ect..) The state should get subsidized by the federal govt, because it's the federal govt that isn't doing it's job to keep the illegals out.

But the government mandated the fence... and then didn't fund it.

McCain want's funding for legislation coupled to the legislation. We vote for the project.. and it's funding. There's been too many unfunded mandates... like the wall. It's typical washington hypocrisy.. publicly 'for' something.. then don't fund it. Cheap tricks.  

[Toad]

This has got to sting. It's still early, polls don't mean much and I still think The Obamessiah will win.

But there is NO WAY that this election should be this close. NO WAY. This election should be a cakewalk for the Dems; all they had to do was nominate someone reasonably close to the mainstream of America. But once again...OH NOOooooooOOOOOooo!  They had to sieze this chance to ram socialism up the bellybutton of Americans by nominating the most liberal Democrat they could find. I will absolutely laugh my bellybutton off if The Obamessiah snatches defeat from the jaws of victory for the Democrats one more time.

Jebus Cripes! They lose to a tongue-tied Bush TWICE in a row and can't do better than generate what is basically a tie 60 days out from this election?

This should generate some deep soul-searching and belly button gazing amongst the DNC. It won't though; they'll think about it for 5 mintues and decide that they should have run someone more liberal.  

Of course it they lose, they'll spend years researching a way to blame their loss on the Republicans or the voting machines or corriolis effect.  


Real Clear Politics summary of latest polls.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html

RCP Average 08/29 - 09/06 -- 46.4 44.6 Obama +1.8



Rasmussen Tracking 09/04 - 09/06 3000 LV (likely voters) 48 48 Tie

Gallup Tracking 09/03 - 09/05 2765 RV 47 45 Obama +2

Hotline/FD Tracking 09/02 - 09/04 916 RV 46 40 Obama +6

CBS News 09/01 - 09/03 734 RV 42 42 Tie

CNN 08/29 - 08/31 927 RV 49 48 Obama +1

[Masherbrum]

Of course it they lose, they'll spend years researching a way to blame their loss on the Republicans or the voting machines or corriolis effect.  

Quoted for absolute Truth.   

[crockett]

Btw I just found this..  http://www.juneauempire.com/stories/031808/opi_258953362.shtml which was written well before she was picked to be VP & written by one of her current staff members.  (John Katz is director of State-Federal Relations and Special Counsel to Gov. Sarah Palin)

He even says Palin wasn't going to stop asking for federal earmarks but was just toning it down because it became a touchy subject nationally and in congress. The article seems pretty accurate and it's not bashing Plain but comes off more on her side. The thing is it shows she was still willing to take the federal earmarks but was toning it down from 54($550 mill in 2007) to 31($200 mil 2008).

This overall is a good thing IMO but it's far from what she is claiming. She is spouting off like she personally decided to lead the crusade on earmark abuse to fight the system when in fact she didn't cut any requests until it became a political hot potato.

This is what I don't like about this woman is the fact she is not telling the truth. The fact is she was heavy on the earmarks until it became a big issue, so then she toned them down to not raise eyebrows or because she found Jesus who knows. However she certainly didn't go on a crusade on her own desicion she was forced to cut the spending.

[Hangtime]

This is what I don't like about this woman is the fact she is not telling the truth.

And that is a bald-faced lie. You don't like her because she can win. If it was lying you don't like, then you'll be voting for Jesus... everybody else on this planet is a liar.

[crockett]

But the government mandated the fence... and then didn't fund it.

McCain want's funding for legislation coupled to the legislation. We vote for the project.. and it's funding. There's been too many unfunded mandates... like the wall. It's typical washington hypocrisy.. publicly 'for' something.. then don't fund it. Cheap tricks.  

Yes but that's typical politicians. That was one of the things that pissed me off about Bush after 9/11 and the Iraq war. He went on the whole speech camplain talking about securing our boarders and ports but then he never funded it. In 2005 Bush actually cut the funding for 10 thousand new boarder agents that had already been approved.  http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/02/09/MNGOKB837T1.DTL

[crockett]

And that is a bald-faced lie. You don't like her because she can win. If it was lying you don't like, then you'll be voting for Jesus... everybody else on this planet is a liar.

No I don't like her because she wants to push religious crap into govt and the fact she's a lying hypocrite. I'm not really worried about her winning I honestly don't see the support for her other than the typical base that would support anything the party tossed on a podium.

I see this woman as nothing more than a cheerleader for the Republican base because she really isn't going to pull in the voters McCain needs to win. She might be strong for the base and the religious right but McCain had them anyway. This woman needs to be able to pull on the fence sitters and Hillary supporters and she isn't going to do that with the strong pro life agenda.

Besides that as we learned with the last election the people really don't count anyway. McCain doesn't have enough electoral votes to win at this point. Just like Bush lost the popular vote last election he only won because he had more electoral votes. Even if McCain managed to get more popular votes he still doesn't have the votes that count.

[bj229r]

Upon further consideration, we could ELIMINATE ALL earmarks, if the federal government STOPPED taking that extra money out of your state.
If you DON'T try for earmarks (i.e. getting YOUR money BACK), you're throwing away your own money.
It's not like the weasels won't spend it if you decide not to go after it....it just goes to New York and California

[Hangtime]

No I don't like her because she wants to push religious crap into govt and the fact she's a lying hypocrite.

Here's 38 reasons why your candidate is a lying hypocrite. (from captain virgil hilts)

Obama's Not Exactly:

1.) Selma Got Me Born -
NOT EXACTLY, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965. (Google 'Obama Selma' for his full March 4, 2007 speech and articles about its various untruths.)

2.) Father Was A Goat Herder -
NOT EXACTLY, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter -
NOT EXACTLY, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent govern-ments Kenya has ever had.

4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom -
NOT EXACTLY, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades. The current government is pro-American but Odinga wants to overthrow it and establish Muslim Sharia law. Your half-brother, Abongo Obama, is Odinga's follower. You interrupted your  New Hampshire campaigning to speak to Odinga on the phone. Check out the following link for verification of that....and for more.
Obama's cousin Odinga in Kenya ran for president and tried to get Sharia muslim law in place there. When Odinga lost the elections, his followers have burned Christians' homes and then burned men, women and children alive in a Christian church where they took shelter.. Obama SUPPORTED his cousin before the election process here started. Google Obama and Odinga and see what you get. No one wants to know the truth. http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/kenyas_killing_fields/index.html

5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian -
NOT EXACTLY, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own inter-views. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

6.) My Name is African Swahili -
NOT EXACTLY, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya, his father's family was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro). From....and for more....go to.....
http://www.arcadeathome.com/newsboyphtml?Barack_Hussein_Obama_-_Arab-American,_only_6.25%25_African

7.) I Never Practiced Islam -
NOT EXACTLY, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
4-3-08 Article "Obama was 'quite religious in islam'"

     http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=60559

    8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian -
    NOT EXACTLY, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).
    February 28, 2008.  Kristoff from the New York Times a year ago:  Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it'll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as "one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset."  This is just one example of what Pamela is talking about when she says "Obama's narrative is being altered, enhanced and manipulated to whitewash troubling facts."

    9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian -
    NOT EXACTLY, not one teacher says you could speak the language.

    10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience -
    NOT EXACTLY, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.

    11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs -
    NOT EXACTLY, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.

    12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion -
    NOT EXACTLY, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.

    13.) An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office -
    NOT EXACTLY, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

    14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life -
    NOT EXACTLY, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

    15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 -
    NOT EXACTLY, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.

    16.) Voting "Present" is Common In Illinois Senate -
    NOT EXACTLY, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.

    17.) Oops, I Misvoted -
    NOT EXACTLY, only when caught by church groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.

    18.) I Was A Professor Of Law -
    NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer -ON LEAVE.

    19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer -
    NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer -ON LEAVE.

    20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill -
    NOT EXACTLY, you didn't write it, introduce it, change it, or create it.

    21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass -
    NOT EXACTLY, it took just 14 days from start to finish.

    22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill -
    NOT EXACTLY, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

    23.) I Have Released My State Records -
    NOT EXACTLY, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.

    24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess -
    NOT EXACTLY, you were part of a large group of people who remedied
    Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.

    25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America -
    NOT EXACTLY, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.

    26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois -
    NOT EXACTLY, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

    27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year -
    NOT EXACTLY, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.

    28.) No One on my campaign contacted Canada about NAFTA -
    NOT EXACTLY, the Canadian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.

    29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism -
    NOT EXACTLY, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction off Israel.

    30.) I Want All Votes To Count -
    NOT EXACTLY, you said let the delegates decide.

    31.) I Want Americans To Decide -
    NOT EXACTLY, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.

    32.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate -
    NOT EXACTLY, you passed 26, most of which you didn't write yourself.

    33.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics -
    NOT EXACTLY, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.

    34.) I Don't Take PAC Money -
    NOT EXACTLY, you take loads of it.

    35.) I don't Have Lobbysists -
    NOT EXACTLY, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.

    36.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad -
    NOT EXACTLY, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.

    37.) I Have  Always Been Against Iraq -
    NOT EXACTLY, you weren't in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time.

    38.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care -
    NOT EXACTLY, your plan leaves us all to pay for the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it.

Yer invited to attempt to disprove any of this. #4 Is enough to convince me beyond any shadow of reasonable of doubt that O'Bama should net be in the White House, or Congress.

Squirm, Clockpith, Squirm.....

[crockett]

Here's 38 reasons why your candidate is a lying hypocrite. (from captain virgil hilts)

Yer invited to attempt to disprove any of this. #4 Is enough to convince me beyond any shadow of reasonable of doubt that O'Bama should net be in the White House, or Congress.

Squirm, Clockpith, Squirm.....

It's aparent you didn't even check the so called "sources" that are provided. Number one you bashed me in another topic for using a liberal blog as a source.

That entire post has 3 linked sources.. The first one #4 is a blank page.  The source for #6 is a page selling cell phones.. 

Then source for number 7 is "world net daily".. lol that's laughable at best as that site is the Daily Kos for the right wing.


so "Squirm, Clockpith, Squirm..... " back at you because in gamers terms you just got owned and it shows you will believe anything that fits your needs and do no research for yourself.

[Hangtime]

LOL.. check Number 4 again. This time, wait for the page to load. Or, get a better computer.

#6.. try this link. Site was updated, info moved. 
http://www.arcadeathome.com/newsboy.phtml?Barack_Hussein_Obama_-_Arab-American,_only_6.25%25_African

Now.. aside from the source... and remember; the media ignored Edward's bimbo bust for 6 months after a blog broke the news and it got picked up by a trash weekly... do you think Obama would survive the same scrutiny as Palin's been getting?

So... disprove it. C'mon, find me a source.. any source that can disprove any of it.


LOL... keep squirming, Crotchtit.

[crockett]

LOL.. check Number 4 again. This time, wait for the page to load. Or, get a better computer.

#6.. try this link. Site was updated, info moved. 
http://www.arcadeathome.com/newsboy.phtml?Barack_Hussein_Obama_-_Arab-American,_only_6.25%25_African

Now.. aside from the source... and remember; the media ignored Edward's bimbo bust for 6 months after a blog broke the news and it got picked up by a trash weekly... do you think Obama would survive the same scrutiny as Palin's been getting?

So... disprove it. C'mon, find me a source.. any source that can disprove any of it.


LOL... keep squirming, Crotchtit.

Hangyourself...

You actually want me to believe anything on a "game blog" not even a political blog that has a picture of this with the article you want me to read? I'm not even going to waste my time with that..



I'm trying to figure out what your complaint is.. are you saying he's not black enough?

[Nwbie]

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/50lies.asp

A email that has been floating around the internet for the gullible is looked at

I am sure that there is one floating around about McCain and Palin - but only the immature and gullible swallow these
Might as well start answering those - i need you to deposit these funds for me from Africa emails... they are the gospel too.