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Offline JAGED

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Re: Christianity, is it
« Reply #120 on: September 09, 2008, 03:32:26 PM »
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Re: Christianity, is it
« Reply #121 on: September 09, 2008, 03:40:45 PM »
Yeah, I didn't think so.  Ok then, here you go SkyRock and Motherland.  I still expect to see your sources and links (it'll never happen because they don't exist)...

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Eastern-Orthodox-1456/non-Orthodox-Christians-1.htm

"Orthodoxy teaches that it fully and correctly preserves the witness as taught by Jesus Christ to His Apostles and passed down through the bishops, Holy Scripture, and the traditions and worship of the Church. The Church is the continuation of the New Israel, the people of God, and that we are saved as individuals, but also as a community.

Other Christian faiths have preserved parts of the Apostolic witness, but have either added or subtracted from it. The Orthodox Church does not put the Infinite God in a box. We do not believe that other Christians cannot be saved, but we cannot, in good faith, endorse other teachings that differ from ours. We cannot say that the teachings of the Methodist Church lead to salvation, but we will not limit God and say that Methodists cannot be saved."



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Re: Christianity, is it
« Reply #122 on: September 09, 2008, 03:43:22 PM »
What do you want us to post a link of? A crazy televangelist ranting about the non-Christians being burned or something?

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Re: Christianity, is it
« Reply #123 on: September 09, 2008, 03:46:42 PM »

 :)  People only believe in open minds if people change their minds to their favor,  otherwise they are considered close minded.

I believe that you will only find arguements on a board like this,  people are set in their ways and iof they change i doubt it is becasue of this board.
I'm pretty sure it's more a lack of open admission or concession.  Lazs and Hangtime (two most noticeable occurences I recall) have said they had changed their minds on non minor stuff thanks to discussions on the board.
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Re: Christianity, is it
« Reply #124 on: September 09, 2008, 03:49:28 PM »
What do you want us to post a link of? A crazy televangelist ranting about the non-Christians being burned or something?

Not so much you Motherland.  You didn't make this statment:

Seems the religion itself is a very unforgiving one in almost every faith.  If you don't believe our way, you not only die, but burn...........forever!!! :aok

But my link was for you too because you did ask:

OK... how about an organized, centralized religion :)

No, I expect Sky to cough up links that say unequivocally that all Christian religions state what he said...  Won't happen...
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Re: Christianity, is it
« Reply #125 on: September 09, 2008, 03:53:14 PM »
Heh.... if you dont accept Jesus as your savior then its the lake of fire for you..unless your Catholic where you can be "prayed" out.

This broad brush is abit insane in many ways.
Of course, I only see what he posts here and what he does in the MA.  I know virtually nothing about the man.  I think its important for people to realize that we don't really know squat about each other.... definately not enough to use words like "hate".

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Re: Christianity, is it
« Reply #126 on: September 09, 2008, 04:15:42 PM »
SkyRock... Your


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Motherland, while SkyRock is looking for non-existant links, you also asked for an example and I gave you one.  No comment? Are you willing to agree that SkyRock is f.o.s. on his assertion?
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Re: Christianity, is it
« Reply #127 on: September 09, 2008, 04:17:14 PM »
my questions were serious.  Do you care to answer them?

I have already.
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Re: Christianity, is it
« Reply #128 on: September 09, 2008, 04:31:53 PM »
Christianity is nothing more than treating people the way you want to be treated. I don't think people really get that anymore. It's not about going to church every sunday, or praying. It's loving you neighbor.
I used to love my neighbour, then her Husband found out...
God loved his neighbour too. That's how it all started :lol
Christianity is not old school astrology; it's more like a main-stream cult.
It's more than just a cult ;) It's the largest most profitable enterprise in the entire world that has NO product. ;)
The same can be said for most religions.
Ok, having made that revelation, why the heck don't they shut up at night?
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err... "false idols"?
The Roman Catholics are the epitome of Pagan worship. They have dozens of gods to whom they pray. If They pray to one and they don't get what they want they keep on moving down the line until they see results :lol
The Church didn't come into existence until after Christ had been crucified and rose from the dead, then ascended into Heaven.
No, YOUR  church didn't come into existence before some nutters in the middle east nailed some bloke to a tree 2000 years ago for saying how cool it would be if everyone was nice to each other. Not much else has changed there yet
The vote only occurred after they killed off those who opposed their views.  The Church made it a policy to murder Gnostic Christians.
I call B.S. on this one.  Source? Links?
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Read up on your history, what did the conquering Christians do to the Druids in Britain, the Pagans in Europe and the Muslims in the Crusades?
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Re: Christianity, is it
« Reply #129 on: September 09, 2008, 04:35:28 PM »
JAGED, so are you saying that in Christianity if an outsider, like myself being Atheist, doesn't believe in Jesus, God, or is gay, that they still will be going to heaven, and wont be going somewhere else?  Because if your saying this is true then it's news to me.
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Re: Christianity, is it
« Reply #130 on: September 09, 2008, 04:37:34 PM »
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Re: Christianity, is it
« Reply #131 on: September 09, 2008, 04:38:52 PM »
Yeah, I didn't think so.  Ok then, here you go SkyRock and Motherland.  I still expect to see your sources and links (it'll never happen because they don't exist)...

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Eastern-Orthodox-1456/non-Orthodox-Christians-1.htm

"Orthodoxy teaches that it fully and correctly preserves the witness as taught by Jesus Christ to His Apostles and passed down through the bishops, Holy Scripture, and the traditions and worship of the Church. The Church is the continuation of the New Israel, the people of God, and that we are saved as individuals, but also as a community.

Other Christian faiths have preserved parts of the Apostolic witness, but have either added or subtracted from it. The Orthodox Church does not put the Infinite God in a box. We do not believe that other Christians cannot be saved, but we cannot, in good faith, endorse other teachings that differ from ours. We cannot say that the teachings of the Methodist Church lead to salvation, but we will not limit God and say that Methodists cannot be saved."



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Re: Christianity, is it
« Reply #132 on: September 09, 2008, 04:40:07 PM »
I will give you the information you requested... shortly.  You first.  What about your broad statement? Nothing to back it up? Sources and links that says all Christian religions say you will burn in hell forever if you don't belong to them...  I'm waiting.  I'll post my information momentarily.

For you too...

 Read the bible and you will know what God told christians about hell. :aok
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Re: Christianity, is it
« Reply #133 on: September 09, 2008, 04:43:20 PM »
JAGED, so are you saying that in Christianity if an outsider, like myself being Atheist, doesn't believe in Jesus, God, or is gay, that they still will be going to heaven, and wont be going somewhere else?  Because if your saying this is true then it's news to me.

What I am saying is that Orthodox Christianity doesn't judge anyone on whether they are going to heaven or not.  If you belong, great (but still not home-free), otherwise it's up to God and God alone.  Only God can judge.  That is the stance of Orthodox Christianity.
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Re: Christianity, is it
« Reply #134 on: September 09, 2008, 04:47:11 PM »
 Read the bible and you will know what God told christians about hell. :aok

And thus the problem with Sola Scriptura...

Backtracking are we? Let me guess.  You couldn't find any links? I'm not surprised. 

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