Christianity, is it

[lazs2]

the really cool and hip people don't believe in god.  the extremely cool people who think they are really really smart take every opportunity to mock religion.

They have alternate religions that we must not mock tho.

lazs

[AKIron]

My point was more along the lines of 'observing the sabbath', only eating fish on Fridays (I think that's just a Catholic thing though?), confession, not eating Pork,.... the finer points of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.If you're wagering something that is illogical in the first place, why would you narrow it down? That itself is completely illogical.

The finer point of Christianity is forgiveness. Looking at forgiveness from a purely secular point of view I think we could all use a little more of this. I'll go so far as to suggest that much of mental illness is the result of a lack of forgiveness, for oneself and for others.

[Hangtime]

the really cool and hip people don't believe in god.  the extremely cool people who think they are really really smart take every opportunity to mock religion.

They have alternate religions that we must not mock tho.

lazs

like the stock market? or maybe, the welfare state? or maybe they're scientoligists.

*sigh*

Lose -lose deal, no matter what teams are on the field.

[Motherland]

The finer point of Christianity is forgiveness. Looking at forgiveness from a purely secular point of view I think we could all use a little more of this. I'll go so far as to suggest that much of mental illness is the result of a lack of forgiveness, for oneself and for others.

That's a basic component of human morality in any case, which would make Pascal's Wager irrelevant unless he were talking about observing the religion strictly.
You can be a good person, and exercise forgiveness without being a Christian or believing in a God at all.

[JAGED]

My point was more along the lines of 'observing the sabbath', not eating fish on Fridays (I think that's just a Catholic thing though?), confession, not eating Pork,.... the finer points of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.If you're wagering something that is illogical in the first place, why would you narrow it down? That itself is completely illogical.

Don't confuse Church Doctrine with Church Tradition.  Fish Friday's is an Apostolic tradition, not a law that, if broken, will land you in hell...

I can't speak for Pascal but I surmise that he concluded that Christianity was the only religion worthy of consideration.

Pascal's Wager is about the afterlife.

This guy gets it:

The finer point of Christianity is forgiveness. Looking at forgiveness from a purely secular point of view I think we could all use a little more of this. I'll go so far as to suggest that much of mental illness is the result of a lack of forgiveness, for oneself and for others.

[Hangtime]

I forgive you.

Go with God.

Bless you.

"NEXT!"

[Xargos]

the really cool and hip people don't believe in god.  the extremely cool people who think they are really really smart take every opportunity to mock religion.

They have alternate religions that we must not mock tho.

lazs

I'm Gnostic.  At least we recognize that a lot of stuff is idol and Sun worship.  Yet we still believe in a Supreme God anyways.

[AKIron]

You can be a good person, and exercise forgiveness without being a Christian or believing in a God at all.

Perhaps you can be "good" and exercise forgiveness without believing in God yet so many aren't and don't.

[Motherland]

Perhaps you can be "good" and exercise forgiveness without believing in God yet so many aren't and don't.

On the other hand,  you can be "good" and exercise forgiveness while believing in God yet so many aren't and don't.

[JAGED]

I try not to slam anything more than my door on religious nutballs. Being an agnostic, my official position is neutral.

I forgive you.

Go with God.

Bless you.

"NEXT!"

You are FAILING

[Rollins]

ankle ankle ankle pwnage pwnage pwnage

Yeah, yeah we all know. Broken record.


On topic, some of the questions about the trinity and the inability to understand it- it falls under divine mystery I believe. Which is to say that humans have a limited ability to understand that which was created by an omnipotent, omniscient being.

[VonMessa]

The great trouble with religion - any religion - is that a religionist, having accepted certain propositions by faith, cannot thereafter judge those propositions by evidence.

I prefer reason.

Explain the Platypus......

[moot]

n/t

[AKIron]

On the other hand,  you can be "good" and exercise forgiveness while believing in God yet so many aren't and don't.

No argument from me. However, the central tenent of Christianity is forgiveness, from God, for oneself, for others. I fail to see this as the  plague so many claim.

[SkyRock]

I though perhaps your questions were serious. Obviously I was wrong. Fool me once....

my questions were serious.  Do you care to answer them?