Author Topic: 8" gun bombardment lesson..AND PROBLEM.  (Read 238 times)

TheWobble

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8" gun bombardment lesson..AND PROBLEM.
« on: January 06, 2001, 07:32:00 PM »
Ok i have been messing with the 8" again and I think I have found the best way to hit fields and other stationary targets with them, in a fairly accurate way.

1. get in a plane (bomber so you will have outside view)  

2. fly over your target at about 9k

3. when approaching the target go to outside view and hit F8 and then look straight down from above your plane.

4. when your plane is DIRECTLY above the field (target) click the CENTER of your little plane icon on the map.

5. return and land and switch to big guns.

6. Match numbers and BOOM!

RESULTS.

I did exactaly as above, i started firing at 35k and ceased at 19,

I recorded 2 GE's killed, I thought "what the hell, I was aiming right and everything! but still not hitting a damn thing!"

so I switched teams and went to the base I was bombarding.  To my amazment the entire center of the base was almost totally covered in craters from my 8"guns.
So due to the lack of any shell dispersion every round landed EXACTLY where I had aimed it, in otherwords I went form inaccute to SEVERLY over accurate.  PLEASE HTC give these guns some dispersion.

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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2001, 08:50:00 PM »
They want you to use a spotter.

Note: There was something about seaplane tenders mentioned by Pyro in a news post of his.  Also, there are two launch rails on the back of the cruiser.  There may be a Vought OS2U Kingfisher on the way.

For now just use any CV plane, or even bail out and sit on a hill nearby as a downed pilot.

Hans.

TheWobble

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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2001, 08:55:00 PM »
what I did was spot myself, you can be in any plain or vehicle and click the map, and when ya get to the guns the place on the map you clicked last will be loaded as the fire point for the big guns.

However hitting the target area is NOT the problem, the problem is that all 3 rounds land practically on top of each other so that unless you hit the object exactly with all 3 rounds you wont hit it at all.

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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2001, 04:25:00 AM »
Well, what I was talking about requires two people.

One to spot, the other to shoot.

Hans.

P.S.  I also think it supposed to be too difficult to really use effectivly. It is to keep the flightsim portion of the game the most popular and practical part of the game.  Pyro and HiTech don't want a fully simulated combined arms game.  They want a flightsim only.

I don't, so when WW2 Online comes out...I'm gone.

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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2001, 05:54:00 AM »
The problem with spotting is that if your below 5k you can see the hits but your easy meat for any enemy con or the AA. If your at 10 to 20k you can't see the hits from the ships guns at all!

Yes dispersion needs to be adjusted, as well as the ground hit sprites made more visible.

Also a way to tell WHICH turret your spotting for would be very helpfull.

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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2001, 07:46:00 AM »
If spotters could be used regularly, it would be an added dimension, but with radar, etc, the problem is would be keeping ur spotter alive long enough..hehe.

I've sunk 3 carriers so far using the 8 inchers, 1 at 8.8k, 1 at 15k and my farthest kill was right under 20k.  I had a 2nd gunner on board that stayed zoomed in all the way and I used him to sight with.  

On bases, I've hat no problems so far hitting fuel, etc at bases near 25k which has been my longest hit.  Adjusting to "feel" ur way around the base can be learned but everytime I get a good crack at a base, the fleet starts turning so I have to keep constast side pressure on stick to keep the gun in position.

I'm starting to master those 1 shot hits like some of those tank folks that can hit u with the 1st round.      Hooraa for the big guns!!!

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LJK Raubvogel

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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2001, 02:22:00 PM »
Yeah, last night I played with the 8 inchers for about an hour. Managed to take out barracks, fuel, ammo, and 3 or 4 acks. I just deviated from the range and bearing a few degrees to spread the shots out a bit. I'd still like to have some type of visual rangefinder for ship to ship shots. Takes a long time to bracket an enemy fleet, and with the slow rate of fire, its tough to adjut accurately.

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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2001, 07:05:00 PM »
There is no incentive for anyone to be a spotter in this game. Only reason to do it is to help out a team and there is darn little of that. To have a spotter you need teamwork. Why should another player stop fighting and risk getting shot down to help you gain points by shelling a field. Not a criticism, just an observation. The spotter gets zilch outa the deal for flying low and slow to spot your rounds.

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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2001, 09:24:00 PM »
player guning should be able, to control a spotter plane like a carrier...set a waypoint for it to fly (to target)and you can observe from it.

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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2001, 10:48:00 AM »
or, if they add cruiser mounted seaplanes, ala the Kingfisher, give anyone who flies one within gun range of the carrier points if ground/surface objects are destroyed...

or maybe make them click in the same general area as the gunner so that you know who is helping who perhaps?

I like the idea of a spotter working closely with a gunner.

Anyone ever read accounts of the D-Day spotters?  Some great stories there!

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