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Offline Rich46yo

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Re: Supply ships to Georgia....
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2008, 07:08:23 PM »
The Russian navy is so outmatched even a Lunatic couldnt concieve starting a naval conflict with the USN. Let alone NATO.

We have over 53 advanced hunter/killer SSNs alone. Over 55 advanced Burke class DDs., 22 advanced CGs. 37 Frigates, 11 CVN groups, soon to be 12, 13 amphib carriers, we have 4 SSGNs each capable of launching 154 advanced tomohawk missiles. And we have more highly advanced systems coming on line each year. We have a SOSUS ring around Russia that the Russians cant beat.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/ship.htm Heres the Russian navy for you. Notice the incept dates and a picture emerges of about 25% of it would have a fighting chance to at least make it out of port. Much of the rest? Not even worth fueling.
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Re: Supply ships to Georgia....
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2008, 07:18:37 PM »
Not to mention the literal decimation.. repeated decimation's of trained crews and officers.

The only effective naval counter or force multiplier they have involves the use of nuke tipped surface to surface missiles and torpedoes.

...and that would be suicide for them and genocide for their nation.

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Re: Supply ships to Georgia....
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2008, 06:40:46 AM »
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He ridiculed possible US concerns about the Russian deployment, saying: "Go ahead and squeal, Yankees."

haha.. chavez is a complete tosser and probably drives a volvo. he reminds me of one of those harmless but annoying little yappy mutts that you would just love to kick it's head in when no ones looking. also, it wouldn't surprise me if he was related to that other pos tosser in iran whose name i can't spell

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US State Department spokesman Sean McCormack poked fun at Russia's Navy, saying if Russia really intends to send ships to the Caribbean, "Then they found a few ships that can make it that far".

^^funny stuff. it don't sound like he's shaking in his boots or even squeling though does it. 

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Re: Supply ships to Georgia....
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2008, 07:07:58 AM »
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US State Department spokesman Sean McCormack poked fun at Russia's Navy, saying if Russia really intends to send ships to the Caribbean, "Then they found a few ships that can make it that far".

That is funny.  :lol
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Re: Supply ships to Georgia....
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2008, 07:37:25 AM »
Right up the Savanna river to Augusta.  That would probably be the best way to get supplies to central Georgia...

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Re: Supply ships to Georgia....
« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2008, 09:14:40 AM »
Actually US warships are now plying the waters of the Black sea. Many US warships, tho the number is unknown. But what is known is that we now hold the balance of naval power in the black sea, and that a NATO ally decides who can and cannot get in and out of it.

So again...a message to the Russians. This message is we can blow your navy up if we decide to and dont think you hold all the cards in the region because you dont.

And as if the USN wasn't a bad enough foe to reckon with. There is also a ton of naval talent in NATO. Most of all the Brits, and of course the bloody Huns invented underwater warfare, but also countries like Norway have a lot of submarine talent. Others, like Turkey, Spain, Italy, Portugal, Greece, should they find the guts to fight, have all pretty good NATO standard equipment.

Remember were talking "NATO standard" not "Russian standard". And I purposely left out Canada because even if they still have some ground units with guts their navy has been eviscerated by their need to build a socialist paradise to the north of their sub-human masters. They have no submarines anymore and the entire navy, for that huge coastline, consists of a few rust bucket frigates and ice breakers. I dont even think they call it a navy anymore.

In short, their navy sucks. But there is a lot of talent in NATO to draw from and this entire Russia thing must stay a NATO operation. The last thing we need is to make unilateral decisions in Europe. Even if all the worlds oceans are basically USN lakes.
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Re: Supply ships to Georgia....
« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2008, 09:30:07 AM »
 The Bush administration got Aid there within 24 hours. How long did it take them to get Aid to the victims of Hurricane Katrina?

  If you live in New Orleans,you may want to think about  a move  to Georgia..............Europe.

 
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Re: Supply ships to Georgia....
« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2008, 09:36:24 AM »
Battleships they still have Battleships :rofl we got rid of ours after the gulf war now they just sit at home and tourists can see them.
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Re: Supply ships to Georgia....
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2008, 09:42:21 AM »
The Bush administration got Aid there within 24 hours. How long did it take them to get Aid to the victims of Hurricane Katrina?

  If you live in New Orleans,you may want to think about  a move  to Georgia..............Europe.

 

Get your facts straight. It took the US Navy over a week to get aid into there after the Georgian government requested it.

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Re: Supply ships to Georgia....
« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2008, 10:08:22 AM »
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The Bush administration got Aid there within 24 hours. How long did it take them to get Aid to the victims of Hurricane Katrina?

  If you live in New Orleans,you may want to think about  a move  to Georgia..............Europe.

And while your at it try reading the Law. For the Federal Govt. to give aid to a state in an emergency the state itself has to request it. The individual state is the one who holds the cards in an emergency. But nobody ever blames the thieves and half wit Democrats running Louisiana.
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Re: Supply ships to Georgia....
« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2008, 10:29:40 AM »
Battleships they still have Battleships :rofl we got rid of ours after the gulf war now they just sit at home and tourists can see them.

No they dont have BBs either. What they are sending is a CGN of the Kirov class. A guided missile nuclear powered cruiser in the 25,000 ton class, "I dont think the thing even has a deck gun". Also being sent is a Udaloy class DD. The problem with sending these things is that they were never designed as open ocean killers. The entire Russian surface fleet, most of all the northern fleet, was designed as defensive escorts for the hunter/killer SSNs and huge Oscar class cruise missile submarines that were in a huge kill box as they left their ports enroute to the north Atlantic.

In fact the old Russian navy, which is still pretty much the new Russian navy, had one large and important task it was built for. And that was to disrupt NATO resupply coming from American to Europe in time of war on the west European continent. Thats it! This is not a versatile navy capable of a multitude of tasks like the NATO Navies are, most of all the huge and powerful USN. So this deployment of theirs is pretty much a joke. Its completely irrelevant.
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Re: Supply ships to Georgia....
« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2008, 10:51:29 AM »
  I thought a C17 carrying medical supplies and shelter took off on the 13th of August I stand corrected.
 
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Re: Supply ships to Georgia....
« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2008, 12:28:30 PM »
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Re: Supply ships to Georgia....
« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2008, 12:30:19 PM »
thats not rust, it's rust colored camo paint. :lol

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Re: Supply ships to Georgia....
« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2008, 01:46:35 PM »
Battleships they still have Battleships :rofl we got rid of ours after the gulf war now they just sit at home and tourists can see them.

The dolts in the media call everything a battleship... however, nothing on the seas looked as menacing as these ships, was more survivable, when you see a battleship, you KNOW what they do for a living - the only reason they arent still on duty is because of the political climate and cost (remember that banana Bush 1's 'peace dividend'? - He didnt learn the lesson of peace through STRENGTH)
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