HiTech,Pyro, still considering no "Bar Dar" under 500 feet?

[Nifty]

Actually, it seems hitech and crew like to keep quiet about most improvements/fixes to the game.  Sure they let us know here and there what new plane they're working on, or that they're gonna add trains for example, but they keep a lot of stuff quiet until the version is released.  Heck, for patch 4, I don't even think I saw them address one issue on the board prior to the patch coming out.

I guess with the interview and Pyro saying we're getting the Hiryu, they feel we've got enough info for now.  

[hblair]

No Nifty, most of the time we are told what is going to be in the next version while it is still being developed. Look all the way back to beta, we have been told of just about every major change / new thing added to the game long before upcoming versions are released, with the exception of very few things (like the P47).

HTC stays in touch with their customers.

Right HT?

Throw us the 'nana!
 

[hitech]

My view point is simple,undesided,there for no answer.

HiTech

[hblair]

Ok fellas, now we gotta try to convince him of our case.  

[ 11-06-2001: Message edited by: hblair ]

[Ripsnort]

(drums fingers on table) It was undecided at the 2000 con!  

[AcId]

-Jim Carey, Dumb & Dumber

"So your saying theres a chance..."  

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by AcId:
-Jim Carey, Dumb & Dumber

"So your saying theres a chance..."  

Not nice to talk about Nate and Super that way...

[Nifty]

hitech, can you pork hblair's 30mm in his G10?  thx.  

now where is that link to the bribes...  

[hblair]

HT, while you weigh which way is best, could you disable bar dar below 500ft in the main to see the effect on gameplay? Let that be part of your decision. I can see your concern, you have much more at stake here than we do. This is your livelihood and all.

I am very confident it will have a positive affect on gameplay. The main affect being the spreading out and lowering of the furballs / fights. Ultra high altitude bombing missions will be balanced by low altitude raids where the bombers can be intercepted by witty defenders.

Can we give it a whirl?

'nana HT?

[Furious]

My opine:

The following was lifted from:
 http://ewhdbks.mugu.navy.mil/rdr-hori.htm

 

A nomograph for determining maximum target range is depicted in Figure 2. Although an aircraft is shown to the left, it could just as well be a ship, with radars on a mast of height "h". Any target of height (or altitude) "H" is depicted on the right side.

 


As this shows as antenna hieght increases or range decreases detection altitudes decrease.  So you could sneek up to a base, but at very close range you would still be detected and have a dot on the dar.  This of course neglects radar shadows and atmospheric anomolies.  


HT could base aircraft detection, and therefore a dot on the dar, on something similar to the above nomograph.  If it is on radar then it has an associated bardar representation.  Also, a craft not detected by the radar, but in visual range (normal in-game dot detection range) of a friendly aircraft or GV, then it is displayed on the bardar only.


F.

[ 11-06-2001: Message edited by: Furious ]

[funkedup]

Hitech please consider at least programming a Sector Bar altitude floor as an arena setting that we can use for Events or the Combat Theatre.

Also it would be nice to have seperate dar settings for people in flight or in the tower.

[ 11-07-2001: Message edited by: funkedup ]

[popeye]

What funkedup said.

Testing these settings is really the only way  to know the effect on gameplay.  If the controls are in the code, any variation could be tested.

[eskimo2]

HT,
I vote to try it out.
It could make the game more fun and interesting.

eskimo

[hblair]

Case in point:

Assassins squad night was last night. We planned on doing some captures and were met with this when we logged on:

     

Backs against the wall, no big deal. But with the extra pilots online now, the main arena is one crowded place. Look at the map above. What field would you hit to try to get a toehold and break out? Look at the sector bars. You gonna get a goon thru that. nuh-huh. Tried it 3 times. Look below:

     

The closest we got was at A52. We went NOE to stay below dot radar. Got within 10-15 miles of the base and the sector bars are coming alive with bad guys. No big deal, we've done this many times before. We had 8 or so experienced pilots in this mission, we hit the city, have it almost taken out and notice there's like 8-10 light fighters hassling us. They take us down one at a time, all the while more of their countrymen are upping from the field. It's a done deal.

We could either furball or go to the Dueling arena and ffa. We opted for the latter. Because there was absolutely no breaking out of our corner. There's just waaay too much radar for the amount of people in the  main arena these days. A blind 90 year old woman could find a fight the way the main arena is now-but an experienced squadron cannot take fields given the situation we were in.

Now, if the radar were off below 500ft, we could have given one of the following plans a try:

     

Would they have worked? Don't know. But success or failure, the furball in the main arena would have been spread out because of it.
Is that a good thing?
I think it is. All the work HT has put into the mission planner / strat system could be more utilized.

So comes the all-important question we have asked all along:

'nana HT?

   

[ 11-08-2001: Message edited by: hblair ]

[hblair]

<punt> for HT.