Tiffy Rockets

[Kev367th]

Anyone come up with a definitive answer to which rockets we have on the Tiffy? (Mossie had same ones)

Choice of -

60lb HE/SAP (semi armour piercing)
60lb HE/GP (hollow charge)
18lb HE
25lb AP

Or do we have a 'generic' rocket?

[Kev367th]

Anyone come up with a definitive answer to which rockets we have on the Tiffy? (Mossie had same ones)

Choice of -

60lb HE/SAP (semi armour piercing)
60lb HE/GP (hollow charge)
18lb HE <-----my guess
25lb AP

Or do we have a 'generic' rocket?

[RTHolmes]

60lb HE/SAP (semi armour piercing) is my guess

[bigrich]

well if my info is correct the rockets have the power of a destroyer broadside

[Kev367th]

well if my info is correct the rockets have the power of a destroyer broadside

Thought it was the equivalent of a light cruiser?

Doesn't tell us what the Tiffy rockets are in game, find it hard to believe they are 60lbs'ers.

[bigrich]

they were 60-lb rockets  and normally tiffys carried 8-12 of em

[Murdr]

If you look at the Damage potential data the 3.5" rocket is more consistent with similar HE values than it is with AP.  The E6B shows the 3.5" rocket to weigh 80lb.

[bigrich]

If you look at the Damage potential data the 3.5" rocket is more consistent with similar HE values than it is with AP.  The E6B shows the 3.5" rocket to weigh 80lb.

what? how can they weigh 80lbs?!

[Murdr]

Go offline, spawn on the runway and shut your engine off.  Pull up the E6B note the weight and pickle off a 3.5" rocket.  Note the change in aircraft weight on the E6B.  I'm simply stating what the game data reports. 

[Bronk]

what? how can they weigh 80lbs?!

60 lbs of explosive. Now what does the rest of the rocket weigh?

[Pannono]

*raises hand*
20 lbs!

[SmokinLoon]

Dunno which is which, but according to sources it would have been either SAP or AP, not HE.  However, either way it does take 2 of them to destroy a strat (ord, barracks, radar, etc) which is consitant with the 250lb requirement.  I have however, destroyed a gv using only one rocket.  If my memory serves me correctly, I do believe it was an M8 so take it for what it is worth.  Dont most gv's go dboom with a direct hit from a 100lb bomb?  If so... then it only takes one 3.5 rocket to destroy it.

[Scherf]

*raises hand*
20 lbs!

 

*inserts picture of Ralph from The Simpsons*

[Tony Williams]

From
Flying Guns – World War 2: Development of Aircraft Guns, Ammunition and Installations 1933-45

"It is worth commenting on these RPs. The origin of the British ones lay in the 3" (76 mm) UP (unrotated projectile) unguided AA rockets, which were designed to be fired in salvoes. They were fitted to warships early in the war but replaced as more AA guns became available. After noting the Soviet experience with rockets fired from aircraft, the British adapted the UPs for this purpose and two different warheads were eventually devised; a 25 lb (11.3 kg) solid AP head, intended for use against armoured targets, and a 60 lb (27 kg) HE head for use against ships. Typical striking velocities were 460 m/s and 350 m/s respectively. Battle experience soon reversed this preference, however. The AP proved to be very effective against ships and surfaced submarines, because on hitting the sea the trajectory would flatten out and it would skim just under the surface for some distance, hitting with enough force to penetrate hulls and boilers. On the other hand, it was found that a hit from the AP did not necessarily cause fatal damage to a tank (it had particular difficulty in penetrating Tiger tanks), whereas the HE would devastate anything it struck – armoured or not – and was therefore a good general-purpose ground attack weapon."

Incidentally, 60 lb was the weight of the warhead, not the HE contents: these consisted of 14 lb of TNT. By comparison, a 6 inch HE shell from a British naval gun weighed 100-112 lbs of which 6-10% was HE. So the blast effect of one 60 lb RP was about the same as a hit from a light cruiser gun (although the latter would penetrate more deeply), which no doubt led to the conclusion that a salvo of 8 RPs from a Typhoon was much the same as a broadside from an RN light cruiser with 8x 6 inch guns.

[MjTalon]

I might not know the specific type, but a tiffie took out my M4 with 2 rockets.  pretty darn strong if you ask me.